lee59 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I think Laguardia and Newark temperatures during heat waves are the highest around, especially night temperatures. They are open concrete and tarmac and Newark surrounded by chemical and industrial like plants. Kennedy not as bad because of the ocean and smaller airports are not surrounded by as much concrete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Hot today but miles better then yesterday IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Peak SSTs up a few more degrees to 81° now. STATION/POSITION TIME SKY/WX TEMP WIND PRES VSBY WAVE AIR SEA DIR/SP/G HT/PER (UTC) (F) (DEG/KT/KT) (MB) (MI) (FT/S) NY Harb Entrance 1850 81 150/ 8/ 10 1015.9 2/ 6 20 S Fire Island 1850 110/ 2/ 4 1016.5 2/ 6 Great South Bay NOT AVBL 23 SSW Montauk P 1840 80 75 200/ 4/ 6 1016.7 15 E Barnegat Li 1826 81 N/A 2/ 6 Hudson Canyon 1850 77 1017.4 3/ 6 Kings Point 1830 87 190/ 8/ 11 1016.5 Execution Rocks 1830 86 180/ 4/ 6 N/A Western LI Sound 1730 83 100/ 4/ 6 N/A Central LI Sound NOT AVBL Robbins Reef 1830 80 180/ 17/ 18 1016.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 36 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Hot today but miles better then yesterday IMO It really makes a big difference when the dewpoints are in the 60s rather than the 70s. I went for outdoor dining for brunch today (pancakes) and it really didn't feel that bad with a dewpoint of 63. In fact I went for a 7 mile run during the evening yesterday when the dewpoint was 67, and it didn't feel bad at all. But when I run when the dewpoint is in the 70s, it really feels hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted July 21, 2020 Author Share Posted July 21, 2020 Current temp 92/DP 71/RH 50% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said: They'll probably be a big uptick from all the heat recently going into next week. Looks like more 95°+ potential by Sunday and Monday as 850 mb temperatures return to +20C. 850 hPa temperature / 500 hPa geopotential Tuesday 21 Jul, 12 UTC T+144 Valid: Monday 27 Jul, 12 UTC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Been 90/91 for hours with a south wind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 downtown newark is 95/96 while the airport is stuck at 91. our obs system is so annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, winterwx21 said: It really makes a big difference when the dewpoints are in the 60s rather than the 70s. I went for outdoor dining for brunch today (pancakes) and it really didn't feel that bad with a dewpoint of 63. In fact I went for a 7 mile run during the evening yesterday when the dewpoint was 67, and it didn't feel bad at all. But when I run when the dewpoint is in the 70s, it really feels hot. Yeah, it’s still hot but a little more bearable with a lower dew point. I always like to challenge myself during the heatwave with longer runs. Even more now with the gyms still closed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 7 minutes ago, forkyfork said: downtown newark is 95/96 while the airport is stuck at 91. our obs system is so annoying We need better downtown representation since our airports are subject to sea breezes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 40 minutes ago, Rjay said: Been 90/91 for hours with a south wind. ISP hit 90, nice heat wave for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 13 minutes ago, psv88 said: ISP hit 90, nice heat wave for us The 79° dew point at ISP and 79° minimum at FRG were probably the two most impressive records for Long Island. The FRG data only goes back to 2000. Time Series Summary for FARMINGDALE REPUBLIC AP, NY - Month of Jul Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. Rank Year Highest Min Temperature Missing Count 1 2020 79 11 - 2019 79 0 - 2013 79 0 - 2002 79 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 37 minutes ago, Allsnow said: Yeah, it’s still hot but a little more bearable with a lower dew point. I always like to challenge myself during the heatwave with longer runs. Even more now with the gyms still closed Yeah, I do too. It definitely makes you feel good about the shape you're in when you can do major running in this type of heat. Most people can't do it, and of course they shouldn't try unless they're in great shape. You really need to be in great shape to do serious running in this type of heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Star Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, lee59 said: I think Laguardia and Newark temperatures during heat waves are the highest around, especially night temperatures. They are open concrete and tarmac and Newark surrounded by chemical and industrial like plants. Kennedy not as bad because of the ocean and smaller airports are not surrounded by as much concrete. Are there any chemical plants left in northeast Jersey? There are no major industrial manufacturers left in Linden NJ, just a few relatively clean power producing plants, except fro the Bayway refinery. Newark is certainly paved over pretty good, like you said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I-95 south in that part of NE NJ looks like an alien civilization at night. High of 93 here, low was 73. Felt toasty today but far less oppressive than yesterday’s pressure cooker humidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 NYC obs used to come from the roof of 17 Battery place in downtown Manhattan...not sure where they measured snow...it changed in 1961 when official obs were taken in Central Park...snowfall measurements have been suspect at times from there since awos was installed...having the NYC weather bureau in eastern Long Island don't help matters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Managed to make 90° today with onshore wind, after am low of 73°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dWave Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 89/68 after a high of 94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Rjay said: Been 90/91 for hours with a south wind. we're warmer than JFK to our west lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, bluewave said: We need better downtown representation since our airports are subject to sea breezes. they need to quit building airports near bodies of water (particularly with sea level rise)....any data on when JFK will be going underwater from sea level rise (unless they move its location like they are doing with some military bases)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Allsnow said: Yeah, it’s still hot but a little more bearable with a lower dew point. I always like to challenge myself during the heatwave with longer runs. Even more now with the gyms still closed I used to do that as a teenager. That was back in the early 90s lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, forkyfork said: downtown newark is 95/96 while the airport is stuck at 91. our obs system is so annoying isn't today the day that Newark hit 108 in 2011? I remember some said that even that was a lowball, it was more like 110. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 hours ago, bluewave said: Looks like more 95°+ potential by Sunday and Monday as 850 mb temperatures return to +20C. 850 hPa temperature / 500 hPa geopotential Tuesday 21 Jul, 12 UTC T+144 Valid: Monday 27 Jul, 12 UTC Chris, I thought we were supposed to cool down over the weekend and the heat was going to return next week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Yesterday was the way heat is supposed to be! lol NYC was 4 degrees cooler than JFK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 30 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: they need to quit building airports near bodies of water (particularly with sea level rise)....any data on when JFK will be going underwater from sea level rise (unless they move its location like they are doing with some military bases)? Sea level rise or sunny day flooding is increasing fastest over the Southeast. https://www.noaa.gov/media-release/us-high-tide-flooding-continues-to-increase The report, 2019 State of High-Tide Flooding and 2020 Outlook, documents changes in high-tide flooding patterns from May 2019 to April 2020 at 98 NOAA tidal gauges along the U.S. coast, and provides a flooding outlook for these locations for the coming meteorological year, May 2020 to April 2021, and projections for the next several decades High-tide flooding, often referred to as "nuisance" or “sunny day” flooding, is increasingly common due to years of relative sea level increases. It occurs when tides reach anywhere from 1.75 to 2 feet above the daily average high tide and start spilling onto streets or bubbling up from storm drains. As sea level rise continues, damaging floods that decades ago happened only during a storm now happen more regularly, such as during a full-moon tide or with a change in prevailing winds or currents. In 2019, the Southeast saw a 3-fold increase in flooding days compared to the year 2000. For example, Charleston, S.C., had 13 days where flooding reached damaging levels, compared to only two days typical in 2000. Along the Western Gulf, percentage increases were the highest, greater than 5-fold. In Texas, Sabine Pass and Corpus Christi had 21 and 18 flooding days in 2019, and in 2000 those locations would typically only experience about one and three days, respectively. "As a Chesapeake Bay resident, I see the flooding first hand and it is getting worse. Records seem to be set every year," said William Sweet, Ph.D., an oceanographer for NOAA’s National Ocean Service and lead author of the report. "Communities are straddled with this growing problem. Fortunately, NOAA’s tide gauge network is keeping a close watch and helping us provide guidance about the disruptive flooding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, bluewave said: Sea level rise or sunny day flooding is increasing fastest over the Southeast. https://www.noaa.gov/media-release/us-high-tide-flooding-continues-to-increase The report, 2019 State of High-Tide Flooding and 2020 Outlook, documents changes in high-tide flooding patterns from May 2019 to April 2020 at 98 NOAA tidal gauges along the U.S. coast, and provides a flooding outlook for these locations for the coming meteorological year, May 2020 to April 2021, and projections for the next several decades High-tide flooding, often referred to as "nuisance" or “sunny day” flooding, is increasingly common due to years of relative sea level increases. It occurs when tides reach anywhere from 1.75 to 2 feet above the daily average high tide and start spilling onto streets or bubbling up from storm drains. As sea level rise continues, damaging floods that decades ago happened only during a storm now happen more regularly, such as during a full-moon tide or with a change in prevailing winds or currents. In 2019, the Southeast saw a 3-fold increase in flooding days compared to the year 2000. For example, Charleston, S.C., had 13 days where flooding reached damaging levels, compared to only two days typical in 2000. Along the Western Gulf, percentage increases were the highest, greater than 5-fold. In Texas, Sabine Pass and Corpus Christi had 21 and 18 flooding days in 2019, and in 2000 those locations would typically only experience about one and three days, respectively. "As a Chesapeake Bay resident, I see the flooding first hand and it is getting worse. Records seem to be set every year," said William Sweet, Ph.D., an oceanographer for NOAA’s National Ocean Service and lead author of the report. "Communities are straddled with this growing problem. Fortunately, NOAA’s tide gauge network is keeping a close watch and helping us provide guidance about the disruptive flooding it's being reported near Babylon (south of Montauk Hwy) too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gravitylover Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: Wait, that was a year before Hale-Bopp? I wonder why I dont remember it in NY, maybe it couldn't be seen from here? I guess so. I have no idea about here I was there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 7/22 LGA: 95 PHL: 95 New Brnswk: 94 TTN: 94 TEB: 93 ACY: 92 NYC: 91 EWR: 91 JFK: 90 ISP: 90 BLM: 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 Today was another very warm day with highs again reaching the 90s in many parts of the region. However, readings in the northern Middle Atlantic region and southern New England area were somewhat cooler than those of yesterday. Tomorrow will likely be a similar day. Some locations could pick up a shower or even thundershower. The current predominantly warmer than normal pattern will likely persist through at least August, paving the way for a solidly warmer than normal summer throughout the region. Occasional short-lived cool shots remain possible. One or more heatwaves are likely in July across the region, including New York City. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was -1.5°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.2°C for the week centered around July 15. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged -0.92°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.22°C. Neutral-cool conditions will likely prevail through mid-summer. The probability of the development of a La Niña event during late summer or early autumn has increased in recent weeks. The last time the six-week moving average for ENSO Region 1+2 was as cold as the current figure during July or August occurred in 2013. Winter 2013-14 had neutral-cool ENSO conditions. January and February featured ENSO Region 3.4 anomalies that were -0.50°C or below. The SOI was +14.71. Today, the preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was -0.370. On July 20, the MJO was in Phase 1 at an amplitude of 1.469 (RMM). The July 19-adjusted amplitude was 1.327. The MJO has been in either Phase 1 or Phase 2 for 51 consecutive days. Last year, the MJO went through a very strong passage through Phase 1 during the closing days of May. About four weeks later, a warmer than normal pattern locked in and predominated through early autumn. This year, the MJO was in Phase 1 for 3 consecutive days with an amplitude of 1.500 or above during the June 1-3 period. Last year, the SOI fell to -42.04 on June 22 when the MJO was in Phase 6. This year, the SOI plunged below -46.68 on June 5, its lowest level in more than three years. The dramatic plunge in the SOI could be the proverbial spark that kicks off a sequence of events leading to the development of a sustained warmer than normal period. The cases that saw both the MJO and SOI thresholds satisfied generally saw 10-20 days where the temperature reached or exceeded 90° in New York City during the July 1-August 31 period. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied 96% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal July. July will likely finish with a mean temperature near 79.8°. The probability of an 80° mean temperature in July has increased in recent days to near 50%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted July 22, 2020 Share Posted July 22, 2020 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: Chris, I thought we were supposed to cool down over the weekend and the heat was going to return next week? Fri looks 'cooler' than current period with Sat having a bit of an onshore component with offshore low. Sun (7/26)now looks to go NW flow and start the heat with Monday (7/27) and Tue (7/28) seeing very strong heat spike as currently modeled. Wed (7/29) strong cold front perhaps a widespread stormy - severe chasing day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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