SENC Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Indystorm said: And now for an agency like NOAA to put politics ahead of science is infuriating. I'm ashamed that NOAA AND By extension, the NWS, were in fact LIEING too the General Public, about Wind *Gust(s)* here in Wilmington/Carolina Beach & Federal Point areas.. .. I'm Ashamed that NOAA tossed their .10 cents into the Ring of Global Warming Hoax, "Climate Change" debacle.. YES TRUMP was Right .. Am I defending the President? NO though HE was in fact,, RIGHT, Get over it.. 2 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 9 42 minutes ago, SENC said: I'm ashamed that NOAA AND By extension, the NWS, were in fact LIEING too the General Public, about Wind *Gust(s)* here in Wilmington/Carolina Beach & Federal Point areas.. .. I'm Ashamed that NOAA tossed their .10 cents into the Ring of Global Warming Hoax, "Climate Change" debacle.. YES TRUMP was Right .. Am I defending the President? NO though HE was in fact,, RIGHT, Get over it.. You need to back this up. I'm waiting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidewinder Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 CNN mentioned Alabama. I don't see them being attacked relentlessly. Why? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 1 hour ago, SENC said: I'm ashamed that NOAA AND By extension, the NWS, were in fact LIEING too the General Public, about Wind *Gust(s)* here in Wilmington/Carolina Beach & Federal Point areas.. .. I'm Ashamed that NOAA tossed their .10 cents into the Ring of Global Warming Hoax, "Climate Change" debacle.. YES TRUMP was Right .. Am I defending the President? NO though HE was in fact,, RIGHT, Get over it.. *Lying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sidewinder said: CNN mentioned Alabama. I don't see them being attacked relentlessly. Why? Possibly, because at that time, they were really looking for our Mayor. As always ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 8 minutes ago, TriPol said: *Lying A pardon should be given for good intentioned ALL CAPS strong emotional misspellings. As always ..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 13 minutes ago, rclab said: A pardon should be given for good intentioned ALL CAPS strong emotional misspellings. As always ..... KNOW WEIGH!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 i still think josh is shark food Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted September 7, 2019 Share Posted September 7, 2019 4 minutes ago, forkyfork said: i still think josh is shark food Obvious trolling is obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 4 hours ago, SENC said: I'm ashamed that NOAA AND By extension, the NWS, were in fact LIEING too the General Public, about Wind *Gust(s)* here in Wilmington/Carolina Beach & Federal Point areas.. .. I'm Ashamed that NOAA tossed their .10 cents into the Ring of Global Warming Hoax, "Climate Change" debacle.. YES TRUMP was Right .. Am I defending the President? NO though HE was in fact,, RIGHT, Get over it.. 3 hours ago, Sidewinder said: CNN mentioned Alabama. I don't see them being attacked relentlessly. Why? It's as if somebody spiked these peoples' drinks. Absolutely mind-blowing. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the ghost of leroy Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 CNN THO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Just looking st some snapchat videos at abaco and noticed there was a cruise ship sailing around the southern part of the island full of people having a blast. Impervious to humanitarian crisis going on 50 miles away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 5 hours ago, SENC said: I'm ashamed that NOAA AND By extension, the NWS, were in fact LIEING too the General Public, about Wind *Gust(s)* here in Wilmington/Carolina Beach & Federal Point areas.. .. I'm Ashamed that NOAA tossed their .10 cents into the Ring of Global Warming Hoax, "Climate Change" debacle.. YES TRUMP was Right .. Am I defending the President? NO though HE was in fact,, RIGHT, Get over it.. Sorry about your brain worms, get well soon 4 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/noaa-staff-warned-in-sept-1-directive-against-contradicting-trump/2019/09/07/12a52d1a-d18f-11e9-87fa-8501a456c003_story.html “This is the first time I’ve felt pressure from above to not say what truly is the forecast,” the meteorologist said. “It’s hard for me to wrap my head around. One of the things we train on is to dispel inaccurate rumors and ultimately that is what was occurring — ultimately what the Alabama office did is provide a forecast with their tweet, that is what they get paid to do.” 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCweatherNOW Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Is josh ok? Has anyone heard from him? Hope he’s ok, looks bad out in the Bahamas ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Is josh ok? Has anyone heard from him? Hope he’s ok, looks bad out in the Bahamas ?Scroll up. He is fine and has been busy describing what he witnessed to news organizations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasons Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 I'll chime in about Sharpiegate (since, ironically, I can't talk politics on my own forum, but I think it's best that way) -- I'm an Independent and I lean Libertarian. I think it's fair to say most of the media has been out to get Trump since day one. It's no secret they cannot stand him. Justifiable? Yes. He brings it on himself with his combative style, idiotic comments and constant tweetstorm. But let's call a spade a spade -- anything to make him look bad goes into overdrive. Especially outlets like CNN. But that's another topic for another forum. Sharpiegate is a new low for Trump. As someone who has been committed to delivering accurate and scientific information to the public, and always preaching the mantra of "When in doubt, follow the official guidance from the NHC" - this is enraging. Meteorologists and Emergency Management Officials have it tough enough as it is, cutting through the BS and dealing with old-timers who always refuse to evacuate, regardless of the situation. But now that Trump has turned a scientific discussion into a political one -- it's going to be that much harder. The undermining of the NWS and the NHC is unforgivable. James Spann - whom I deeply respect - is exactly right. This tweet by an 'unidentified spokesperson' at NOAA is nothing but a political sham. It was ordered by Trump to his Secretary of Commerce to 'set the story straight.' It's disgusting; it's beyond the pale. I have relatives who are die-hard Trump supporters. I have tried my best to use this example to show them once and for all that this man cares for his reputation above all else, even peoples' lives and safety. This is dangerous and unprecedented. Yet, they still rebuff my criticism, even though I'm a co-owner of Storm2k and have at least 10X the meteorological knowledge of all of them combined. What's even more disheartening is that these are otherwise smart and intelligent people, but they are completely blinded by pure politics. I've tried to get through to them and I can't. One of them told me today that I was 'alienating' them from the family and my response was "I'm so sorry - I thought Sharpiegate was a no-brainer!" It baffles me that they cannot see the truth or reason in all of this. They believe the sharpie map was real? Really? And the criticism of it is another CNN-driven-media conspiracy? Are they kidding me? I've read commentary that this is perhaps an opportunity to discredit NOAA and the NWS as it relates to global warming research. If that's the case, then again, it's disgraceful and does us all a disservice. The purpose of those organizations is to be objective and deliver accurate information while adhering to the scientific method we were all taught in grade school. In summary, the events of the last week have been horrifying. It is a sad and pathetic state of affairs when our President is allowed to distort official information, break the law by altering official forecasting products, and not only gets away with it -- but a significant percentage of the population still shrugs it off as 'fake news'. I can only hope that somehow, people will finally see this naked narcissism for what it really is, because it is a danger to our national security. 12 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WEATHER53 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 NWS in the overall does an adequate job. It may be a C or B- but they don’t fail. I don’t evaluate them as if they are the only source. I don’t think they have to be “the very best” source either. They serve the public. They may not serve us well enough but we have sharper needs and info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheese007 Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, jasons said: What's even more disheartening is that these are otherwise smart and intelligent people, but they are completely blinded by pure politics. I've tried to get through to them and I can't. One of them told me today that I was 'alienating' them from the family and my response was "I'm so sorry - I thought Sharpiegate was a no-brainer!" It baffles me that they cannot see the truth or reason in all of this. They believe the sharpie map was real? Really? And the criticism of it is another CNN-driven-media conspiracy? Are they kidding me? My gosh...just shoot me already. "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STxVortex Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 The American Meteorological Society, the 'pro mets' professional group, issued a statement of support for the working NOAA staff [below]; especially those of the Birmingham, AL WFO, who corrected the 'Met-in-Chief's' absurd Sharpie forecast and his subsequent doubling down on Sharpiegate. The NOAA upper level management and spokesperson types who folded under that wholly unjustified and corrupt WH political pressure, with that unattributed public rebuke of the Birmingham WFO, should be instantly removed, no later than on 22 Jan 2021. IIRC, NOAA still only has an 'acting' director, not a permanent one, yet another example of the gross negligence of this maladministration [and subservience to VP/RU]. "Only the Best"... https://www.ametsoc.org/index.cfm/ams/about-ams/response-to-noaa-statement/ https://www.ametsoc.org/index.cfm/ams/ "Response to NOAA Statement The American Meteorological Society fully supports our colleagues at NOAA, who consistently put the safety of the American public first and foremost. They work tirelessly employing state of the art science to keep Americans safe. With respect to the press release that was issued by NOAA on Friday, 6 September, regarding the forecast of Hurricane Dorian, AMS believes the criticism of the Birmingham forecast office is unwarranted; rather they should have been commended for their quick action based on science in clearly communicating the lack of threat to the citizens of Alabama. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STxVortex Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, cheese007 said: "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." An apt quote, but you should attribute it to George Orwell's great [and scary] book, "1984", which I think too few today are aware of. Yet, here we are, nearly living in it. Nineteen Eighty-Four: A Novel, often published as "1984" George Orwell presented a situation where people struggle to live in a atmosphere of deceit under the pervasive rule of "Big Brother". An atmosphere of deceit where "that which is truth" is totally controlled by an authoritatively positioned ruling party. “What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening” 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Even when you prove by Trump's very own actions and statements how irresponsible and dangerous he is, some people go with this ridiculous "it's just weather" bullshit or any other lame excuse for the hundreds of other examples of inappropriate actions/behavior. Yeah, you can go **** right off with all of that. I'm done dealing with you. There is no overcoming this lemming mentality and cult insanity anymore with a narcissist megalomaniac. I've thrown in the towel. I pray for the day politics is boring again and matters of public safety are not denigrated into spectacle, misinformation and outright lies. I really am tired of this timeline. Perhaps some day we'll have a government again that isn't undermined all the way to the top with heads of the executive cabinet and congressional branches who actually do their damn jobs. For now it is a three-ring sideshow circus. Actually I shouldn't disrespect circus performers. They actually have value / worth and a place in our society. Edit: Well I guess I'm no longer refraining. I apologize for the extreme rant. I've said my peace and I am done with it. Try to get back to a positive mentality and move on. What else you going to do in these times? 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 Josh started a first-person account of his Dorian experience via a twitter thread. Here is a link to the unrolled version (with 5 tweets so far) - https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1170675844815216640.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurricane Agnes Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestrobjwa Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 48 minutes ago, Hurricane Agnes said: Uh-oh...smh I don't understand how we came to this. That even WEATHER has been poisoned by the divisiveness that has come with this presidency! I mean look, he messed up...but because of his otherworldly level of narcissism, he could not let it go (which led to the media not letting it go) because he can't stand looking bad even in the littlest thing. Mercy...we can't have this with weather warnings--lest people be less likely to react to a real threat! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 34 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said: Uh-oh...smh I don't understand how we came to this. That even WEATHER has been poisoned by the divisiveness that has come with this presidency! An untreated cancer always metastasizes. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 23 hours ago, jburns said: KNOW WEIGH!! After taking a close look at your avatar, I humbly withdraw my suggestion. As always .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, rclab said: After taking a close look at your avatar, I humbly withdraw my suggestion. As always .... That pic was taken on one of my good days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted September 8, 2019 Share Posted September 8, 2019 1 hour ago, jburns said: That pic was taken on one of my good days. If all the folks of your ranking have a get together. I hope there are sufficient warnings posted for the surrounding area. As always ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted September 9, 2019 Share Posted September 9, 2019 This is bloody disgraceful.... So much for being a beacon of light. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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