CoastalWx Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 I'm definitely in Ray's camp for Dec '89. No thanks. Would rather a warmer, but snowier Dec in a heartbeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 9 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I'm definitely in Ray's camp for Dec '89. No thanks. Would rather a warmer, but snowier Dec in a heartbeat. Cold and bone dry with grass showing doesn’t do it for me either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 First post of the season, earlier than typical for me... drawn in by this remarkable +PNA/-EPO/-NAO stage signaled on EPS / GEFS Day 10-15 and beyond. I know you've all been on this for the past week. I'd think there's some explosive baroclinic potential in there too with those arctic blasts, though there's always the risk the best gradient blasts too far south and out to sea. Casual memory, I don't think we've had this promising a front-end "look" in years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 28, 2017 Share Posted November 28, 2017 28 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Well looks are nice and all, but lets get results. Better get on the bandwagon now or miss the bus completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 50 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: Better get on the bandwagon now or miss the bus completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I'm not that paranoid about Dec 89. First, that was actually not that bad back in the interior because of the dec 15-16 storm which kind of shafted a few areas out east...we did have snow cover most of the month...though admittedly it was pretty thin for the first half. Secondly, we'd prob do a bit better with the same longwave pattern if we tried it again. Third, were prob not getting something as extreme as that month anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxBlue Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 hour ago, CoastalWx said: I'm definitely in Ray's camp for Dec '89. No thanks. Would rather a warmer, but snowier Dec in a heartbeat. Already talked about this a month ago with Will, but that December '89 cold blast was so powerful that coastal South Carolina saw 8-16" of snow. It'll have to take a very historic pattern to even surpass that month which, thankfully for us, I can't see that happening again anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I will say though...dec 89 is showing up on the objective analogs now on a lot of guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 For those of us just born in Aug of 89, what did DEC 89 bring to New England? Also 18z GFS much colder for the week ahead than the 12z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I will say though...dec 89 is showing up on the objective analogs now on a lot of guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Wow difference in water temperature between the waters northeast of the Cape and south of the islands is about 6-7F, that should really amplify storms as they track offshore especially with the arctic air about to pour into our region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, WxBlue said: Already talked about this a month ago with Will, but that December '89 cold blast was so powerful that coastal South Carolina saw 8-16" of snow. It'll have to take a very historic pattern to even surpass that month which, thankfully for us, I can't see that happening again anytime soon. Well it hasn’t been soon.... it’s been almost 30 years ago (I know it’s hard to believe that 1989 is practically 30 years ago), so if it does go to that extreme...it’s been a while. But hoping it doesn’t go there...don’t need that kind of cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 15 minutes ago, WxBlue said: Already talked about this a month ago with Will, but that December '89 cold blast was so powerful that coastal South Carolina saw 8-16" of snow. It'll have to take a very historic pattern to even surpass that month which, thankfully for us, I can't see that happening again anytime soon. Yeah that was a doozy. I've seen pics from that storm down there. Suppression depression here, but you guys got nailed. When I mean Dec 89, I just mean the cold and dry stuff. There is nothing worse than that. I love cold, but as someone who lives on the coast...I treat cold and dry a as kick in the nads. All that cold going unused. It's fine if there is good snowcover, but bare ground with frost heaves the size of the Grand Canyon..ugh. We did have some snow OTG that month though, but that was classic 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 hours ago, dryslot said: The dec 6-7th period is starting to look interesting. Lol. It is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USCAPEWEATHERAF Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 I can't stand cold and dry patterns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 6 minutes ago, USCAPEWEATHERAF said: I can't stand cold and dry patterns Yea, we like when you encounter cold rain instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 1 minute ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Yea, we like when you encounter cold rain instead. Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 3 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: Yea, we like when you encounter cold rain instead. Dawn wettening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted November 29, 2017 Author Share Posted November 29, 2017 Could be too much ... sometimes you don't want that tremendous look ... trust me, you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, dendrite said: Dawn wettening? wet dreams at dusk? Sadly, it’s the truth. When Jimmy jacks corn, I snort pixie dust, and I don’t care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWolf Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, RUNNAWAYICEBERG said: wet dreams at dusk? Sadly, it’s the truth. When Jimmy jacks corn, I snort pixie dust, and I don’t care. Being you’re east of Danbury now...you’re gonna be in a bit better spot when all the big Dogs shift east last minute lol.... watch now everything this year will hug now that you moved from out west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 6 hours ago, backedgeapproaching said: Like PF said, 33" is all time max depth at BTV (going back to the late 1800's with missing date in the 1920's and 30's) 4ft probably not too realistic. I would “like” this but I can’t. I had 35” OTG less than 2 years ago after the Jan ‘16 storm down here. BTV will be quite the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 17 minutes ago, das said: I would “like” this but I can’t. I had 35” OTG less than 2 years ago after the Jan ‘16 storm down here. BTV will be quite the change. Ya, they probably ave 80" a year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 9 days away.. We're getting closer now. Been talking about this for 2-3 weeks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 9 hours ago, das said: I would “like” this but I can’t. I had 35” OTG less than 2 years ago after the Jan ‘16 storm down here. BTV will be quite the change. But you'll find more consistent winter-like conditions compared to MD. That should wet your appetite. The cold will be quite the change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 25 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: 9 days away.. We're getting closer now. Been talking about this for 2-3 weeks.. I think after the 7-8 or so. The cold may be ushered in by a cutter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: But you'll find more consistent winter-like conditions compared to MD. That should wet your appetite. The cold will be quite the change. Yeah despite the occasional time where their peak snow depth in central MD got higher...it's not contest the other 98% of the time. BTV won't go a month or two with no snow in the winter. Their floor is about 35-40" in a winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I think after the 7-8 or so. The cold may be ushered in by a cutter. Yeah signs of a screamer like the 90’s starting to show up to bring her in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Full blown winter pattern is all you can say really. Don't know the details yet but it's gone be really cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Full blown winter pattern is all you can say really. Don't know the details yet but it's gone be really cold. Especially Midwest which may allow us to be stormier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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