Weatherchaser Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 12 minutes ago, Paragon said: I was looking for this before but couldn't find it, what was the strongest TC to directly make landfall on Puerto Rico? This one https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1928_Okeechobee_hurrican Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Maria central pressure measured at 913mb. This makes Maria the deepest hurricane of the 2017 season so far, passing Irma at 914mb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Windspeed Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I was looking for this before but couldn't find it, what was the strongest TC to directly make landfall on Puerto Rico? The Great "Okeechobee" hurricane of 1928 made landfall in Puerto Rico as a Category 5 with 160mph sustained winds. So far it is the only Category 5 to make landfall there in the historical record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Wow, and this one is still strengthening. Probably approaching maximum potential since 910mb is about as strong as those waters will support. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Note that 139 kt SFMR was from the SW eyewall, i.e. one of the weaker quadrants in a NW-moving TC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 46 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Saving grace is that the eye is so tiny that the catastrophic swath will be relatively small... This will destroy the infrastructure for the population centers if it maintains that heading Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennyForYourThoughts Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Eye went from 5 nautical miles wide, to 10 nautical miles wide, in one pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Not gonna hype as it isn't necessary. So far these Cat 5's have hit relatively small populous areas, if this maintains intensity and heading we will be looking at a Humanitarian crisis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hlcater Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, PennyForYourThoughts said: Eye went from 5 nautical miles wide, to 10 nautical miles wide, in one pass. I have a feeling the 5nm wide reading was inaccurate. Mainly given that radar didn't support that and 5nm is rrreeeaaallllyyy small. Eyes also rarely grow outside of ERCs(I think) especially while a storm is deepening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopdog Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Paragon said: Wow, and this one is still strengthening. Probably approaching maximum potential since 910mb is about as strong as those waters will support. We are now 16-17 hrs in from the last communication out of Dominica. Has anyone heard anything? The situation would appear to be dire. With the sun setting soon it appears less likely to hear anything the rest of the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, Coopdog said: We are now 16-17 hrs in from the last communication out of Dominica. Has anyone heard anything? The situation would appear to be dire. With the sun setting soon it appears less likely to hear anything the rest of the night. https://twitter.com/LucasToronto/status/910252426393001987 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paragon Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, Coopdog said: We are now 16-17 hrs in from the last communication out of Dominica. Has anyone heard anything? The situation would appear to be dire. With the sun setting soon it appears less likely to hear anything the rest of the night. Last I know about was the head of the government talking about the roof of his dwelling being blown off and that this has been the case with most or all of the buildings there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain_Patch Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'm starting to come to agreement with 40/70 on his contrarian nature. None of these islands minus Barbuda have been completely decimated. Fact is at this current heading, it's going to interact with the mountains prior to hitting San Juan. The infrastructure will be damaged, but it isn't coming in from the northern part of the Island it's coming in from the South Eastern. It will be bad, and people will die, but this is a compact hurricane that doesn't have the size, or the punch Irma did at her maximum. The damage will be similar to the 7.1 in Mexico, and it will suck. However, this isn't going to be Biblical. We shouldn't let our imaginations run so wild with these storms. People who read the forums get the concept that it's going to be like Tuscaloosa, Moore, Joplin, but it's just not. Also; If you'd do a little googling you'd see HAM radio operators are still in communication. Just because some services are out doesn't mean all are. http://www.arrl.org/news/radio-amateur-on-st-lucia-relays-reports-of-hurricane-devastation-on-dominica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 5 minutes ago, Mountain_Patch said: I'm starting to come to agreement with 40/70 on his contrarian nature. None of these islands minus Barbuda have been completely decimated. Fact is at this current heading, it's going to interact with the mountains prior to hitting San Juan. The infrastructure will be damaged, but it isn't coming in from the northern part of the Island it's coming in from the South Eastern. It will be bad, and people will die, but this is a compact hurricane that doesn't have the size, or the punch Irma did at her maximum. The damage will be similar to the 7.1 in Mexico, and it will suck. However, this isn't going to be Biblical. We shouldn't let our imaginations run so wild with these storms. People who read the forums get the concept that it's going to be like Tuscaloosa, Moore, Joplin, but it's just not. Considering we basically know nothing of what's happened in Dominica (and what we do know sounds pretty bad), I'd temper your gusto a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 1 minute ago, andyhb said: Considering we basically know nothing of what's happened in Dominica (and what we do know sounds pretty bad), I'd temper your gusto a bit. Yeah, I'm not sure how a CAT V into a rather poor area isn't a recipe for a disaster. I would also argue many other islands other than Barbuda were decimated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Mountain_Patch said: I'm starting to come to agreement with 40/70 on his contrarian nature. None of these islands minus Barbuda have been completely decimated. Fact is at this current heading, it's going to interact with the mountains prior to hitting San Juan. The infrastructure will be damaged, but it isn't coming in from the northern part of the Island it's coming in from the South Eastern. It will be bad, and people will die, but this is a compact hurricane that doesn't have the size, or the punch Irma did at her maximum. The damage will be similar to the 7.1 in Mexico, and it will suck. However, this isn't going to be Biblical. We shouldn't let our imaginations run so wild with these storms. People who read the forums get the concept that it's going to be like Tuscaloosa, Moore, Joplin, but it's just not. Also; If you'd do a little googling you'd see HAM radio operators are still in communication. Just because some services are out doesn't mean all are. http://www.arrl.org/news/radio-amateur-on-st-lucia-relays-reports-of-hurricane-devastation-on-dominica Also, how can you claim it won't be "as bad" when there's not much to compare it to, other than the last Cat 5 that hit PR in 1928? The 7.1 earthquake for comparison makes no sense either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mountain_Patch said: I'm starting to come to agreement with 40/70 on his contrarian nature. None of these islands minus Barbuda have been completely decimated. Fact is at this current heading, it's going to interact with the mountains prior to hitting San Juan. The infrastructure will be damaged, but it isn't coming in from the northern part of the Island it's coming in from the South Eastern. It will be bad, and people will die, but this is a compact hurricane that doesn't have the size, or the punch Irma did at her maximum. The damage will be similar to the 7.1 in Mexico, and it will suck. However, this isn't going to be Biblical. We shouldn't let our imaginations run so wild with these storms. People who read the forums get the concept that it's going to be like Tuscaloosa, Moore, Joplin, but it's just not. Also; If you'd do a little googling you'd see HAM radio operators are still in communication. Just because some services are out doesn't mean all are. http://www.arrl.org/news/radio-amateur-on-st-lucia-relays-reports-of-hurricane-devastation-on-dominica did you actually read the link you posted? “Trees down, river has flooded half the village, cars are all over, most houses have lost their roofs or are destroyed, the area between his house and the church is just flattened…in his words, ‘devastation is total,’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z-Cast Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mountain_Patch said: I'm starting to come to agreement with 40/70 on his contrarian nature. None of these islands minus Barbuda have been completely decimated. Fact is at this current heading, it's going to interact with the mountains prior to hitting San Juan. The infrastructure will be damaged, but it isn't coming in from the northern part of the Island it's coming in from the South Eastern. It will be bad, and people will die, but this is a compact hurricane that doesn't have the size, or the punch Irma did at her maximum. The damage will be similar to the 7.1 in Mexico, and it will suck. However, this isn't going to be Biblical. We shouldn't let our imaginations run so wild with these storms. People who read the forums get the concept that it's going to be like Tuscaloosa, Moore, Joplin, but it's just not. Also; If you'd do a little googling you'd see HAM radio operators are still in communication. Just because some services are out doesn't mean all are. http://www.arrl.org/news/radio-amateur-on-st-lucia-relays-reports-of-hurricane-devastation-on-dominica Terrible post. So many assumptions made, please stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Just now, andyhb said: Considering we basically know nothing of what's happened in Dominica (and what we do know sounds pretty bad), I'd temper your gusto a bit. Absolutely, it's WAY too early to make such statements... regardless of if we see "Tuscaloosa" or "Joplin" or not, the damage caused by legit cat 3 to 5 winds is completely devastating and takes years to recover from fully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ridge Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 14 minutes ago, Mountain_Patch said: I'm starting to come to agreement with 40/70 on his contrarian nature. None of these islands minus Barbuda have been completely decimated. Fact is at this current heading, it's going to interact with the mountains prior to hitting San Juan. The infrastructure will be damaged, but it isn't coming in from the northern part of the Island it's coming in from the South Eastern. It will be bad, and people will die, but this is a compact hurricane that doesn't have the size, or the punch Irma did at her maximum. The damage will be similar to the 7.1 in Mexico, and it will suck. However, this isn't going to be Biblical. We shouldn't let our imaginations run so wild with these storms. People who read the forums get the concept that it's going to be like Tuscaloosa, Moore, Joplin, but it's just not. Also; If you'd do a little googling you'd see HAM radio operators are still in communication. Just because some services are out doesn't mean all are. http://www.arrl.org/news/radio-amateur-on-st-lucia-relays-reports-of-hurricane-devastation-on-dominica lol this dude is woke. even throwing in a shoutout to HAM operators. guess there's no damage, guys; HAM operators are still broadcasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mountain_Patch said: I'm starting to come to agreement with 40/70 on his contrarian nature. None of these islands minus Barbuda have been completely decimated. Fact is at this current heading, it's going to interact with the mountains prior to hitting San Juan. The infrastructure will be damaged, but it isn't coming in from the northern part of the Island it's coming in from the South Eastern. It will be bad, and people will die, but this is a compact hurricane that doesn't have the size, or the punch Irma did at her maximum. The damage will be similar to the 7.1 in Mexico, and it will suck. However, this isn't going to be Biblical. We shouldn't let our imaginations run so wild with these storms. People who read the forums get the concept that it's going to be like Tuscaloosa, Moore, Joplin, but it's just not. Don't compare earthquake damage to a category 5 hurricane damage. This is a pretty small storm, but it will be enough to bring potentially massive damage to the PR. Interaction with the mountains of won't do it in time to help San Juan significantly. I don't think you can really over hype a powerful category 5 hurricane heading into a small, but heavily populated island with mountains. Not to mention the economic struggles they have been having lately. Please don't post such irresponsible and blasphemous assumptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, Bostonseminole said: did you actually read the link you posted? “Trees down, river has flooded half the village, cars are all over, most houses have lost their roofs or are destroyed, the area between his house and the church is just flattened…in his words, ‘devastation is total,’ Just a few rum huts damaged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Ridge Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 I'm well aware the barrage of negative reaction to @Mountain_Patch's post will be deleted in short order, but IMO, it's deserved and serves to weed out the crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, Mountain_Patch said: I'm starting to come to agreement with 40/70 on his contrarian nature. None of these islands minus Barbuda have been completely decimated. Fact is at this current heading, it's going to interact with the mountains prior to hitting San Juan. The infrastructure will be damaged, but it isn't coming in from the northern part of the Island it's coming in from the South Eastern. It will be bad, and people will die, but this is a compact hurricane that doesn't have the size, or the punch Irma did at her maximum. The damage will be similar to the 7.1 in Mexico, and it will suck. However, this isn't going to be Biblical. We shouldn't let our imaginations run so wild with these storms. People who read the forums get the concept that it's going to be like Tuscaloosa, Moore, Joplin, but it's just not. "Wind" tunnel vision...pun intended... Surge, waves, rain, mudslides....enough said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coopdog Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 17 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: https://twitter.com/LucasToronto/status/910252426393001987 Thanks! Hopefully the students can get some info out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Back to maria. Discuss the effects of the earthquake and the delusions of numerous posts claiming "biblical" destruction somewhere else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsoonman1 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 A Cat 5 hitting anywhere is going to be devastating, but probably especially for PR. My mom and sister went there last year for a vacation, so I asked my mom if Puerto Rico is ready for a big one. She just laughed. People there are pretty poor and infrastructure already sucks. It seems from what I have seen that they are taking this pretty seriously, so we just have to hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Hurricane force FL wind field has expanded dramatically in the past few hours in the SW quadrant it appears, per recon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SN_Lover Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 Jose over cool waters in the 18Z GFS allowing Maria to nudge more West. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 19, 2017 Share Posted September 19, 2017 4 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Just a few rum huts damaged. Yeah, I don't think Irma and Maria are just delaying happy hour for a couple of days. There is devastation in some pretty impoverished areas. A poorly timed jog with Maria could bring the eye dangerous close to relief efforts in the Virgin Islands. STT already gusting to 43 kts in fact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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