HoarfrostHubb Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: Heh...they still need like 8 more to get even. This was a good ol' fashioned 1990s Nor' Easter...like I said earlier, reminded me a bit of March '94. You could have made an argument of calling it an anorexic '93 Superstorm. Those storms that used hit a huge swath of the northeast. Will it be considered a KU though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Those guys in the Albany area and Eyewall can stop bitchin for good now That band over Northern VT and NY just sat over those areas the whole day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just now, HoarfrostHubb said: Will it be considered a KU though... No. It will get a NESIS rating...but it's definitely a "near miss" storm in the KU book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Will and Scooter should start a post mortem on this event. Saw my faith in models get shaken yet again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: No. It will get a NESIS rating...but it's definitely a "near miss" storm in the KU book. Completely agree on that point...in the book there are a bunch of events just like today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backedgeapproaching Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 15 minutes ago, dryslot said: Rick (Logan11) has 21.5"+ over in NY The ALY PNS has a ton of reports between 14-32" ...the list is really, really long. It's impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just now, HoarfrostHubb said: Will and Scooter should start a post mortem on this event. Saw my faith in models get shaken yet again The models really weren't THAT bad...they did zero in on the flavor of this event (big WCB for SNE/NNE...deformation for NY State) eventually. I think it's just a good example of why we can't be rip and readers...models do a ton of the heavy lifting, but they have biases and if you can use the synoptics to your advantage, you can learn how to approach the model guidance without getting blindsided. The QPF was extremely prolific, but it was likely overdone a bit because of synoptics. Models tend to overdo QPF in the warm conveyor belt and underdo it in the CCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Heh...they still need like 8 more to get even. This was a good ol' fashioned 1990s Nor' Easter...like I said earlier, reminded me a bit of March '94. You could have made an argument of calling it an anorexic '93 Superstorm. Those storms that used hit a huge swath of the northeast. Dome in Utica collapsed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Just now, backedgeapproaching said: The ALY PNS has a ton of reports between 14-32" ...the list is really, really long. It's impressive. Not surprised at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I'm glad Dendrite got a taste of wind. You could see it in his posts...palpable...giddy like his first kiss behind the chicken coop when he was 28. Welcome to the world of manstorms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: I'm glad Dendrite got a taste of wind. You could see it in his posts...palpable...giddy like his first kiss behind the chicken coop when he was 28. Welcome to the world of manstorms. Big damage on the Lake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Anybody do baro traces with that? Wonder if we had a g-wave after the heavy snow stopped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 2.2inches in the rain guage in less than 12 hrs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 5 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Anybody do baro traces with that? Wonder if we had a g-wave after the heavy snow stopped. I will check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 45 minutes ago, dendrite said: Laconia https://www.twitter.com/WMUR9/status/841814309592272896 If that's not a blizzard I don't know what is really. 38 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: You gotta listen to the ten commandments of forecasting...thou shalt not forecast over 12" of snow when the H7 low goes through NY State....with maybe some minor exceptions...like this storm. But you still have to keep the commandment in the back of your mind and temper expectations even if you are going over a foot. I think 12-18 was ok too...that will end up being pretty solid for most of interior MA...even from pretty close to Boston and points west and northwest. The mid levels were a huge red flag. And really forecasting more than 20" in any storm is a top 20 for most cities. That's not really that common, and really doesn't happen unless you double dip in the WCB and CCB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 calling it 13" in Belchertown and maybe a few tenths more with this low level stuff. Extremely dense and heavy, but also completely dry. Could not make a snowball. Zero trace of sleet, wind packed and slabby. Really a great storm for this area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 19 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: The models really weren't THAT bad...they did zero in on the flavor of this event (big WCB for SNE/NNE...deformation for NY State) eventually. I think it's just a good example of why we can't be rip and readers...models do a ton of the heavy lifting, but they have biases and if you can use the synoptics to your advantage, you can learn how to approach the model guidance without getting blindsided. The QPF was extremely prolific, but it was likely overdone a bit because of synoptics. Models tend to overdo QPF in the warm conveyor belt and underdo it in the CCB. Post mortem can simply start at QPF. Rip and reading QPF will get you into trouble just about every time. One of the biggest biases out there is QPF in the dry slot. Always overdone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Regardless if we make 20" or not, seeing a 5" per hour rate is memorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 36 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: LOL at more unnecessary school closings tomorrow 12-15 hrs after the storm is done....pansies. (not here at least, 2 hr delay) Same for Brookline-2 hour delay. That's perfect if you're a kid-sleep am xtra 2 hours and save an add on day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 18 minutes ago, CoastalWx said: Anybody do baro traces with that? Wonder if we had a g-wave after the heavy snow stopped. Checked all the PWS around the lake no couplets observed but serious wind especially for PWS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 23 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Dome in Utica collapsed What done is that? The NCAA Division 3 hockey Frozen Four is scheduled to be in Utica the 24th and 25th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 8 minutes ago, OceanStWx said: If that's not a blizzard I don't know what is really. The mid levels were a huge red flag. And really forecasting more than 20" in any storm is a top 20 for most cities. That's not really that common, and really doesn't happen unless you double dip in the WCB and CCB. I see ECK reported TSSN, you got all WCB what was your highest report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 My snow guys looked like they were going to croak when they finished. Storms like this is what I hired them for. I'll revert back to doing it on my own after I retire-maybe lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 3 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Checked all the PWS around the lake no couplets observed but serious wind especially for PWS Might be downsloping off the Ossipees. Just now, Ginx snewx said: I see ECK reported TSSN, you got all WCB what was your highest report Bridgton is reporting 20.7" but they are starting to seem like a weenie ruler, always the top total. But otherwise we've definitely got widespread 17-18" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 6 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Checked all the PWS around the lake no couplets observed but serious wind especially for PWS gust to 57 kts at YUL at 2300z. Related? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eduggs Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 31 minutes ago, backedgeapproaching said: The ALY PNS has a ton of reports between 14-32" ...the list is really, really long. It's impressive. The immediate Albany area did great and they're still getting a bit of Hudson Mohawk convergence enhancement. But the really good mid-level deformation was in C and S NY as well as NE PA. ALB actually ended up a little too far east. That said, ALB reported many hours of heavy snow and I wish I still lived in the area for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 4 minutes ago, weathafella said: My snow guys looked like they were going to croak when they finished. Storms like this is what I hired them for. I'll revert back to doing it on my own after I retire-maybe lol. I nearly keeled over after shoveling my car over. It was so densely packed with the wind it was coming up in huge blocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Nice, some backside Finger Lake effect snow going on now across CNY. Maybe that can spare ITH the embarrassment of not cracking 10" when one county away is measuring in feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 NWS BTV used my report in their latest PNS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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