Allsnow Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Amazing how normal to slightly above normal temps are talked as a cool shot..same refrain the last few weeks and ive seen very warm days in this periodAfter Wed it will be normal to slightly below with chilly nights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Yet another desert SW low Dew and RH day around the area. KENNEDY INTL.................... 62 14 15 PHOENIX .............................75 20 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 12z gfs warmer now again...either way temps look to drop quickly into the 40's by later at night...This is for Tuesday. All of that looks more reasonable than on the 6z run. Given the deep blocking, I wouldn't be surprised if the first 7-10 days of May winds up not far from normal. Afterward, things could warm up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Ewr hit 72 with 13% humidity. Forecast high was 64 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 24, 2016 Share Posted April 24, 2016 Ewr hit 72 with 13% humidity. Forecast high was 64 Concord, NH takes the dry prize for today. CONCORD SUNNY 58 -3 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Euro only gives NYC .50 of rain for the rest of April. This would allow NYC to finish in the top driest March-April slot. The Euro holds the decent rainfall potential until the first week of May. That would be fitting since most consecutive dry months recently in NYC were answered with a change to wetter in the third month. NYC.....2.49 through today Top 5 driest MAR/APR for NYC ...3.09...1885 ...3.32...1985 ...3.54...1894 ...3.55...1995 ...3.63...1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Euro only gives NYC .50 of rain for the rest of April. This would allow NYC to finish in the top driest March-April slot. The Euro holds the decent rainfall potential until the first week of May. That would be fitting since most consecutive dry months recently in NYC were answered with a change to wetter in the third month. NYC.....2.49 through today Top 5 driest MAR/APR for NYC #1...3.32...1985 #2...3.55...1995 #3...3.63...1966 #4...3.83...1915 #5...4.01...1935 before 1900, 1885 had 3.09"...1894 had 3.54"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 before 1900, 1885 had 3.09"...1894 had 3.54"... Thanks for that update from the late 1800's. I am hoping that the 2010's third month rebound in rainfall for May works out. I put together all the two months of the 2010's which had below 4 inches of precip and the third month with a rebound in rainfall. 2015..APR/MAY....3.94....JUN....4.79 2014..AUG/SEP....3.46....OCT....5.77 2013..SEP/OCT....3.31....NOV....3.15 2012..FEB/MAR...2.33....APR.....3.56 2.49 through today Euro forecast .50 more for April Top 5 driest MAR/APR for NYC ...3.09...1885 ...3.32...1985 ...3.54...1894 ...3.55...1995 ...3.63...1966 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 The deep blocking Bluewave has highlighted, has occurred during the 4/23-5/7 timeframe in 10 cases following El Niño winters. Although it has often resulted in cool anomalies across parts of the eastern half of the CONUS during spring (with some exceptions), there was often a pattern reversal that led to a warm summer overall. During such cases, the likelihood of cases during which there were 25 or more 90° days was 30% vs. the 21% figure for the entire 1950-2015 period for New York City. The latest JMA still points to a warmer than normal summer. In short if the blocking develops as modeled, it likely does not indicate that the probability of a warm or perhaps very warm summer has diminished. It might even be a reaffirming signal if some of the past cases including 1995 and 2005 are representative. Finally, the lowest AO reading during the above-mentioned timeframe is -3.081, which occurred on April 25, 1995. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Great post Don. If the GEFS are correct, we may be able to rival the strongest 4/20-4/30 drop of -3.533 set on 4/20/89. The -AO is making a much better showing recently after the more positive phase stretch from April 2013 into 2015. The impressive plunge last July may have been a precursor to the strong drop in January and the continued more -AO overall this year. 1989 4 20 -3.533 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doncat Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Euro only gives NYC .50 of rain for the rest of April. This would allow NYC to finish in the top driest March-April slot. The Euro holds the decent rainfall potential until the first week of May. That would be fitting since most consecutive dry months recently in NYC were answered with a change to wetter in the third month. NYC.....2.49 through today Top 5 driest MAR/APR for NYC ...3.09...1885 ...3.32...1985 ...3.54...1894 ...3.55...1995 ...3.63...1966 Have had 3.08" here since 3/1...We'll see how we do in May, my driest spring was in 1995 with 6.47". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 Great post Don. If the GEFS are correct, we may be able to rival the strongest 4/20-4/30 drop of -3.533 set on 4/20/89. The -AO is making a much better showing recently after the more positive phase stretch from April 2013 into 2015. The impressive plunge last July may have been a precursor to the strong drop in January and the continued more -AO overall this year. 1989 4 20 -3.533 Thanks. It will be interesting to see whether the AO approaches or surpasses that mark. There seems to be solid agreement about a figure at or below -3.000. On another note, the 12z NAM and GFS are still far apart on tomorrow's high temperature for NYC (NAM MOS: 71° and GFS MOS: 59°). I still think we'll get into the lower 60s and maybe Thursday or Friday would offer the better bet of a sub-60° high. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 The deep blocking Bluewave has highlighted, has occurred during the 4/23-5/7 timeframe in 10 cases following El Niño winters. Although it has often resulted in cool anomalies across parts of the eastern half of the CONUS during spring (with some exceptions), there was often a pattern reversal that led to a warm summer overall. During such cases, the likelihood of cases during which there were 25 or more 90° days was 30% vs. the 21% figure for the entire 1950-2015 period for New York City. The latest JMA still points to a warmer than normal summer. In short if the blocking develops as modeled, it likely does not indicate that the probability of a warm or perhaps very warm summer has diminished. It might even be a reaffirming signal if some of the past cases including 1995 and 2005 are representative. Finally, the lowest AO reading during the above-mentioned timeframe is -3.081, which occurred on April 25, 1995. April 1995 was the last time NYC got below 25 degrees...This year was close with 26 degrees earlier in the month...August and September could climax a very hot summer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted April 25, 2016 Share Posted April 25, 2016 April 1995 was the last time NYC got below 25 degrees...This year was close with 26 degrees earlier in the month...August and September could climax a very hot summer... Summer 1995 might well be a viable scenario for how things will play out this summer, especially as it preceded the onset of a La Niña winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 We could really use a slow moving cutoff low in the East like the ensembles hinting at to increase rain chances for the first week of May. ecmwf-ens_z500a_nhem_11.png the eps has gfes support for a deep trough and slow moving low. i think this is our first real shot of a 2" or greater rain event since february Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 the eps has gfes support for a deep trough and slow moving low. i think this is our first real shot of a 2" or greater rain event since februaryThis is for when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 This is for when? First 4-5 days of May Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailMan06 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Surprised no one's posting on the storm at the moment. The thunder is so loud it woke me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Surprised no one's posting on the storm at the moment. The thunder is so loud it woke me up. lots of lightning too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Surprised no one's posting on the storm at the moment. The thunder is so loud it woke me up.Yeah it woke me up too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Line weakened (as usual) as it made it's way here. I guess the marine layer had something to do with that. Did have a gust front come through just prior to the rain. Gusted to 33 mph at my station here in Sheepshead Bay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Long Beach, Lido Beach and eastern Nassau looks like they are getting hit pretty good now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Yeah it woke me up tooMe too in the Bronx, Pelham Bay area. Torrential rain, vivid lightning, intense thunder. Definitely putting a dent in the drought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Agreed, there was one flash with a canon blast of thunder following it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Decent storm that was, torrential rain and quite a bit of lightning although the thunder wasn't particularly loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 First 4-5 days of MayHopefully it's gone by May 5th which is my birthday although we could use the rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycStormChaser Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 SPC outlook looks interesting for us later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 this April could have one of the lowest monthly AO number since 1950...most of those years had 90 degree heat in May... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Looks like only the 3rd time that the -AO reached -3 or lower during the 4/20-4/30 period. 1989 4 20 -3.533 1995 4 25 -3.081 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 Looks like only the 3rd time that the -AO reached -3 or lower during the 4/20-4/30 period. 1989 4 20 -3.533 1995 4 25 -3.081 ao.obs.gif The dates I have are: 4/20/1989 -3.533 4/21/1989 -3.509 4/22/1989 -3.223 4/25/1995 -3.081 4/26/2016 -3.455 (preliminary) -- the old record for 4/26 was -2.683, which was set in 1960. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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