Wmsptwx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Unreal mess with the roads here. Everything has been icy and over 70 crashes reported. Not really expected until it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Unreal mess with the roads here. Everything has been icy and over 70 crashes reported. Not really expected until it happened. There had been freezing rain advisories issued since last night in adjacent counties, not to mention the same issues occurred this morning in and around the Pittsburgh area. My personal opinion was PennDot probably could have been a bit more proactive in pretreating main roads before the rain arrived given temperatures remaining a couple degrees either side of the freezing mark and coming off an unseasonably cold night with temps in the low-mid teens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Yea, they didn't put them up here until the mess started. After 2 they were issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 There had been freezing rain advisories issued since last night in adjacent counties, not to mention the same issues occurred this morning in and around the Pittsburgh area. My personal opinion was PennDot probably could have been a bit more proactive in pretreating main roads before the rain arrived given temperatures remaining a couple degrees either side of the freezing mark and coming off an unseasonably cold night with temps in the low-mid teens. Pittsburgh was a nightmare. I saw probably 10 crashes on my way down to the pitt gane. Out freezing rain advisory didn't go up till this morning so I don't think pendot was really prepared. Didn't see a truck and all the bridges and overpasses were skating rinks. Also doesn't help that the idiots in their SUVs think they can still go 70 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Pittsburgh was a nightmare. I saw probably 10 crashes on my way down to the pitt gane. Out freezing rain advisory didn't go up till this morning so I don't think pendot was really prepared. Didn't see a truck and all the bridges and overpasses were skating rinks. Also doesn't help that the idiots in their SUVs think they can still go 70 mph. Did any of them involve a little white ford focus? lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Did any of them involve a little white ford focus? lol. Do you know someone that wrecked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 MDT got down to 17 this morning, pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Do you know someone that wrecked? yeah my nephew totaled his car in pittsburgh today (was like 4-5 cars involved) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 yeah my nephew totaled his car in pittsburgh today (was like 4-5 cars involved) Doesn't shock me. Where did it happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Apparently it was a skating rink on I79. That would be my guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Doesn't shock me. Where did it happen? Not really sure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Euro holds serve again with precip deep into PA. My initial looks at it have roughly the southeastern half of the state in at least .25-50" at hour 96. Pittsburgh near the .1" line and far SW PA in .1-.25. Good 850 temps in all of central (less than -4C) and Sus Valley (roughly -2 to -4). 0 line runs just barely outside (east of) the I-95 corridor. Sus valley had .1-25" in both adjacent 6hr frames. Another big run for the central and especially eastern third of PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 6z gfs wants to jump on the euro train along with the ukmet. Para still east. I wonder if ncep did anything with the new gfs upgrade to fix the feedback issues it has with these setups. It's either going to score a coup or fall on its face out of the gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 6z gfs wants to jump on the euro train along with the ukmet. Para still east. I wonder if ncep did anything with the new gfs upgrade to fix the feedback issues it has with these setups. It's either going to score a coup or fall on its face out of the gate. Hey! Welcome back my Schuylkill County "neighbor". I was just thinking about you the other day as I fueling at the Pine Grove Pilot at Exit 100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Wow. Might be an interesting Wed afternoon/night for most of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Wow, a little ice caused some of the worst road conditions I can remember. Just goes to show you black ice is still the most dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I'm back at home for Thanksgiving break, so expect 6"+ in State College while we get 1-3" over to rain here in NEPA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 This is looking to be a what? Afternoon/Evening event? Any chance we can make this hold off until about 8:00 PM Wednesday night? My own selfish request, of course. I'd like to get my traveling done before the roads become ****e. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atomixwx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Looks like the GFS just conceded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 12z OP GFS nudges towards the EURO solution. If it looks better by 00z, we *may* be onto something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 And while we talk about the upcoming potential snowstorm, I'm looking at 58 degrees currently in my backyard. What a beautiful day!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Looks like the GFS just conceded.Usually it concedes a day after an event (or nonevent). Progress? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djr5001 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 12z Euro continues to show historic storm along east coast... 1.35" qpf for MDT... really curious to see how well it is handling the days after system that is moving in this evening/tomorrow if this potential is legit also, average temp for Lake Erie now at coldest temperature by November 23 since 1933 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted November 23, 2014 Author Share Posted November 23, 2014 12z Euro continues to show historic storm along east coast... 1.35" qpf for MDT... really curious to see how well it is handling the days after system that is moving in this evening/tomorrow if this potential is legit also, average temp for Lake Erie now at coldest temperature by November 23 since 1933 Woah there buddy...not historic. Significant, yes, but not historic. If we see this consensus build through the 12z suite tomorrow, I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 What are the Harrisburg snowfall records for November? I figure you have numbers gathered being you can determine difference between a significant and historic storm. Woah there buddy...not historic. Significant, yes, but not historic. If we see this consensus build through the 12z suite tomorrow, I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 anyone look at the NAM-SREF for 15 Z? is it just me or are they indicating that the operational is a bit out to lunch compared to most of the other members? because it looks like to me anyway that it's further left and snowier than the operational NAM run, almost in line with the GFS and Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillvilleWx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Very surprised no one in here is talking about the upcoming system. Maybe not so much the State College crowd, but the LSV crowd should be watching this situation pretty closely. It's not going to be crippling or massive by any means, but the time of day and possible travel problems could be an issue. Still not committing to anything just yet, but just a watchful eye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It's interesting, but I have a feeling it misses MDT to the east. LNS could see a few inches, for sure. PHL jackpot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It's interesting, but I have a feeling it misses MDT to the east. LNS could see a few inches, for sure. PHL jackpot? Well, when in doubt, bet the trend... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MillvilleWx Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It's interesting, but I have a feeling it misses MDT to the east. LNS could see a few inches, for sure. PHL jackpot? I like the Lancaster area on east till eastern Chester county as the best spot for snow. I wouldn't put it past southern and eastern York to come out good as well since it is pretty typical regardless of the situation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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