CT Rain Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I don't think it will be a classic flash freeze except up in the mountains where the low levels are saturated with upslope snow falling when the cold rushes in....for us, the dews will be outracing the temp drop and a flash freeze won't be able to materialize. (disclaimer: that doesn't mean some standing puddles won't freeze, it just means you wont get a classic "all surfaces turn into a skating rink" type flash freeze...which is really what flash freeze means) Exactly - a bit worse than a normal black ice event since runoff will continue I think even as surfaces are drying out as low dews and gusty northwesterlies move in. Already down to 32F in Norfolk CT - may get a bit of snow up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I only care about my flakes here in Princeton now. They should be here soon. After the heavy back edge moved through we had breaks in the clouds. Now cloudy again and light precipitation beginning again. I'm confident I get a period of snow. Currently 36/34. Enjoy it if you do. You might be in a better spot as the stuff is going to weaken further as it comes northeast. My family in the NW burbs of philly said there was a light mix there in the past 1/2 hr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 @danburyweather: The HRRR gives the hills around #tolland about 0.1" of snow tonight before the precip shuts off. @TollandKev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 34.6/33 here at the Pit with a rn/sn mix. Based on waterlogged ground--and the fact that its still a mix--not expecting much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 I don't think it will be a classic flash freeze except up in the mountains where the low levels are saturated with upslope snow falling when the cold rushes in....for us, the dews will be outracing the temp drop and a flash freeze won't be able to materialize. (disclaimer: that doesn't mean some standing puddles won't freeze, it just means you wont get a classic "all surfaces turn into a skating rink" type flash freeze...which is really what flash freeze means) Interesting I never thought about the meteorology of a flash freeze... but even with the amount of water around and if temps go below freezing in a sharp drop, isn't that all that matters? Or do you want to keep the dews right with the temp drop (ie RH staying high)? I figured if its raining and even if precip shuts off, if the ambient temp goes 45F to 27F in like 2 hours, that would be enough to cause it to lock up. But the best flash freezes are when its like just above freezing at 34F and then drops to like 15F really quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Interesting I never thought about the meteorology of a flash freeze... but even with the amount of water around and if temps go below freezing in a sharp drop, isn't that all that matters? Or do you want to keep the dews right with the temp drop (ie RH staying high)? I figured if its raining and even if precip shuts off, if the ambient temp goes 45F to 27F in like 2 hours, that would be enough to cause it to lock up. But the best flash freezes are when its like just above freezing at 34F and then drops to like 15F really quickly. Lower dewpoints will dry out the moisture very quickly. The classic flash freeze where the pavement turns into a rink is when you have full saturation with the temp drop...i.e. like 36F rain and then flashing to 29F and snow. If the drop to cold is all that mattered, then after every lakes cutter in mid winter, we'd get a flash freeze when we drop into the mid 20s within an hour or two after precip stops. We'll get standing puddles freezing and maybe a few areas of black ice, but this air dries out fast as with most cold fronts...so no flash freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Interesting I never thought about the meteorology of a flash freeze... but even with the amount of water around and if temps go below freezing in a sharp drop, isn't that all that matters? Or do you want to keep the dews right with the temp drop (ie RH staying high)? I figured if its raining and even if precip shuts off, if the ambient temp goes 45F to 27F in like 2 hours, that would be enough to cause it to lock up. But the best flash freezes are when its like just above freezing at 34F and then drops to like 15F really quickly. I think the best flash freeze was the fog in "the day after tomorrow". 34.6/33 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Mixed now. Cocktail party so will have to sneak.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Mixed now. Cocktail party so will have to sneak.... Good luck with that. Back to straight rain here, ftl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 The race between precip and temps will be a fun one to watch. With the wet ground, go with the under. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 @danburyweather: The HRRR gives the hills around #tolland about 0.1" of snow tonight before the precip shuts off. @TollandKev BOX hasn't changed their tune. Limiting things to an inch out in GC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Anyone surprised that most VT areas that had snow OTG before this storm will end up with lots more after the storm, cripes the snow didn't melt off the trees. Congrats ski areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 BOX hasn't changed their tune. Limiting things to an inch out in GC.Youve got to get over this love affair with BOX. It doesn't matter what their forecasts are. They are just 1 piece of info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 35.9/35 . Probably go to sleet then snow as that's happened out to the west It's cooler down in Tolland than here or east into Union at a higher elevation. 38° here and there attm. Hopefully we see some whitening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Youve got to get over this love affair with BOX. It doesn't matter what their forecasts are. They are just 1 piece of info It's not love affair--I'm merely stating the fact. I was hoping they'd have seen something to make them up the ante. Apparently they haven't. It's cooler down in Tolland than here or east into Union at a higher elevation. 38° here and there attm. Hopefully we some whitening... The GC of CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Snow covering driveway, snowing nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Temps ticked up to 34.6/32. The crappiest looking light snow you've ever seen at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Meh anyplace east of MPM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Snow covering driveway, snowing nicely.congrats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 35.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 congrats Yaaa buddy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Anyone surprised that most VT areas that had snow OTG before this storm will end up with lots more after the storm, cripes the snow didn't melt off the trees. Congrats ski areas.I am. Of course I don't think the inch and a half or so left on my lawn can hold any more water. It might not even officially qualify as snow anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarverWX Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 When do eastern area's start to cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Light snow....back to my scotch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Light snow....back to my scotch. Congrats Jerry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 When do eastern area's start to cool? already down 10F. up to ~2.84". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Snowing all the way into Torrington now..That batch near NYC should be the batch that flips to snow..34.6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Well its not the Blizzard of 88. All these hours of snow and I'm nearing an inch. So even if you get snow..an inch is the upside probably. Oh maybe there will be more in East Chesterfield. Hah It's not love affair--I'm merely stating the fact. I was hoping they'd have seen something to make them up the ante. Apparently they haven't. The GC of CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Kevin still stretching for an inch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted November 27, 2013 Share Posted November 27, 2013 Kevin still stretching for an inch?nah but think we can coat it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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