Superstorm93 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 If Josh and James managed to capture some footage of this near historic event, news outlets will be all over them and eat that stuff up. Hopefully it's not too long before we hear from them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiffybeth Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Hearing reports from some pretty reliable sources a 32 foot storm surge occurred or is occurring. from who? and where? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 32 foot...dear god! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derecho! Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Presumably it's a conversion of a guesstimate of a 10 meter surge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeznado Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Hearing reports from some pretty reliable sources a 32 foot storm surge occurred or is occurring. Link? Source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackH Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I have seen the 30 foot reports from John Sibley of Live Storms Network... Not sure of his source but he does not put information out there from unreliable sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick05 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 the backside (sw flow) will definitely inundate the city of Ormoc.. surge there must be as bad as in Tacloban; can't wait to see pics from there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Radar loop (too big to attach) http://andrew.rsmas.miami.edu/bmcnoldy/tropics/haiyan13/Haiyan_8Nov13_CEB.gif Hell of a N eyewall catch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I have seen the 30 foot reports from John Sibley of Live Storms Network... Not sure of his source but he does not put information out there from unreliable sources. Eh... I'd wait for another confirmation source with that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Worst part about a 30 ft surge it is that most of Tacloban is 20ft above sea level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jims Videos Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 If that's true that would equal the japan tsunami in many places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 what is there facebook link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
olafminesaw Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I imagine the surge coincided with high tide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackH Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Eh... I'd wait for another confirmation source with that one. I'd wait for confirmation period during the middle of an event like this... Who knows what's for real when you have such limited communication available... I don't know if he's the same source as the person above...have no problem with Sibley though... He posts a lot of "breaking news" but it's not usually fantastical. I know there are some who aren't too keen on him but I've never had issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wmsptwx Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Going to take awhile for accurate info out of there I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sickman Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Good Lord... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchageddon Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 If that's true that would equal the japan tsunami in many places. CBC News (the channel) here in Canada is doing a good job covering this. I think them stating the damage will look more like catastrophic tsunami damage is on point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Josh has big ones. It will make an interesting story. I think in a case like this there is a good argument to be made not to do it, but they seemed to have done everything as wisely as possible. Edds looked like he was closer to the water than they were. I'm not really sure where he was or if that was temporary etc tho. In many of these situations the aftermath can be as bad or worse for the local population. I hope one week of supplies etc is enough. Honestly, my specific knowledge of where they are is limited but speaking more broadly to disasters in the region. I am a little worried about him heh. Partly because the best at these things can end up too good for their own good it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Good Lord... Not really sure what to make of that since the two images don't seem to be of the same location. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Reimer Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I'd wait for confirmation period during the middle of an event like this... Who knows what's for real when you have such limited communication available... I don't know if he's the same source as the person above...have no problem with Sibley though... He posts a lot of "breaking news" but it's not usually fantastical. I know there are some who aren't too keen on him but I've never had issue. I haven't followed him in over two years, but before that point I wouldn't trust a thing. Still, his report is probably accurate (or will be proven accurate with time). Someone got one heck of a surge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apm Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Not really sure what to make of that since the two images don't seem to be of the same location. Agreed; they clearly aren't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick05 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Agreed; they clearly aren't. said to be from the same street (but different camera)... i'm still figuring out though which street is it exactly and how far from the coast it is.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 said to be from the same street (but different camera)... i'm still figuring out though which street is it exactly and how far from the coast it is..check out the you tube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Not really sure what to make of that since the two images don't seem to be of the same location. Agreed; they clearly aren't. It's the same street, almost positive. That's a part where the videographer panned to another direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 The three words of English then fifty Filipino words is pretty funny but man that video is not good as that was prior to the NE eyewall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Based on the last coordinates Josh gave, this is where google earth plots them. Max elevation between him and the water to the east is 26 ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Based on the last coordinates Josh gave, this is where google earth plots them. Max elevation between him and the water to the east is 26 ft. I questioned the 15 foot surge estimates put out prior. The configuration of that bay they were at the point of and the angle of LF look to me like huge surge up into that area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnold214 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I questioned the 15 foot surge estimates put out prior. The configuration of that bay they were at the point of and the angle of LF look to me like huge surge up into that area. Yeah based on the storm track and the configuration of the Leyte Gulf and the San Pedro Bay, I could see how a ton of water could get squeezed up into Tacloban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apm Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I questioned the 15 foot surge estimates put out prior. The configuration of that bay they were at the point of and the angle of LF look to me like huge surge up into that area. But the wind was offshore until passage, and as the storm was booking to the west at over 20 MPH; there wasn't a whole lot of time to pile the water into that bay (San Pedro), perhaps the surge was enhanced by a seiche effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ncforecaster89 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I have no more information on the actual surge event that has taken place, than anyone else so far. The encouraging thing, from the perspective of their personal safety, should be the probability (not certainty though) that the smaller size of the storm should've mitigated against the theoretically higher potential storm surge, for such an extreme wind speed right at landfall. Moreover, it seems highly likely that interaction with land, combined with the wind flow coming from over land into their particular intercept locality, should mean that they were shielded from experiencing the highest winds. That being said, I suspect they still likely encountered category four conditions and the prospect of a category five type surge, being enhanced by the funneling effect pushing up through the bay, into the city. Time will tell the story of what has in fact actually occurred there. I'm just trying to be as objective and optimistic as possible about the effects they have and/or are experiencing. My thoughts and most heartfelt prayers are for all those who are being impacted by this very dangerous and destructive storm! Edit: Keeping in mind that it only requires a storm surge exceeding 18 feet to be characterized as a category five storm surge. I am very skeptical to believe the city actually received a surge exceeding 20 feet. These smaller intense TCs don't typically generate the same enormous surge as the much larger ones, even though they may have much higher winds-all things considered. At least that's my hope for them, and those who live there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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