OKpowdah Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Slightly better than 00z. There are two impulses within the broad trough, and we need some s/w ridging between the two and the second s/w trough to be sharper ... both characteristics look slightly better this run. On the larger scale though, there is the trend towards pushing the Western U.S. ridging east quicker, which limits the amount of room the second impulse has to amplify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Agreed... NJ model-type lows where shallower systems with some vorticity potency run out over the upper MA and then we get clipped by rapid cyclogen moving just underneath... Meanwhile it's in the mid 60s on the southern tip of the Del Marva in that sort of scenario. Thanks for being positive, but its pretty much hopeless at this point.. its like living in Kansas city and hoping the 57-104 Royals make the playoffs on the final day game of the season. This is freaking pathetic.. its supposed to snow in December and January in NH. This just makes me wanna puke up my burrito I had for lunch.. Yay! Dry and Highs in the teens! Sorry, give me 50s if that's the case.. I'm finding it harder and harder to believe that we can actually get a WSW event this winter. We could have not looked at the board for 2 months and came back today without missing anything! Seriously, 4 hours a day x 60 days is 240 hours wasted! Some, much more.. 63 days until March 1st. Daylight is gaining. Sincerely, A depressed SnowNH in snowless NH staring at the 12z Euro, wondering if it will ever snow again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Euro a gradient pattern in the extended range. Hope to be on the north side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Euro a gradient pattern in the extended range. Hope to be on the north side... Seems like we heard that in early December . I had 1 inch to show for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Stj shut down. 1991-92 esque. Cold came but never with snow it seemed. The new elephant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 The new elephant I would prefer that than this Virginia Beach wx Jerry's squirrels squashed by elephants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Sure is going to get cold though. Might be able to dip below zero once here? That could be pushing it, but would be nice to have something to show for it. If this airmass was a little colder and longer duration, we might be talking about serious issues with freezing pipes etc. given no snow on the ground for insulation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 I would prefer that than this Virginia Beach wx Jerry's squirrels squashed by elephants I'd take this ahead of low 20s and bare ground. Cold and dry is ok as a novelty but it gets old quickly sans snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Snowmaking is best in the teens But I understand. Other outdoor activity can be unpleasant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Snowmaking is best in the teens But I understand. Other outdoor activity can be unpleasant Speaking of which ...NASA is hitting the northern lights potential pretty hard as it looks like recent CME is directed at Earth. Their even talking about partial grid failures possible... They said 3:30pm is impact time, give or take 7 hours... Interesting book-ended range, but if it is the latter, than we head on into the evening hours set up about as good as any so far since the recent uptick in solar activity began last summer. The RH looks to dry out and we should be clear tonight. Not sure, I may take a ride up to the overlook at 10 or 11pm. With crystal clean canadian air coming in, there will be virtually no low level gunk in the air to reflect and trap light, like on a humid night in summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Euro a gradient pattern in the extended range. Hope to be on the north side... True gradient...s of the boundary hops into the tub, n ties nooses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Speaking of which ...NASA is hitting the northern lights potential pretty hard as it looks like recent CME is directed at Earth. Their even talking about partial grid failures possible... They said 3:30pm is impact time, give or take 7 hours... Interesting book-ended range, but if it is the latter, than we head on into the evening hours set up about as good as any so far since the recent uptick in solar activity began last summer. The RH looks to dry out and we should be clear tonight. Not sure, I may take a ride up to the overlook at 10 or 11pm. With crystal clean canadian air coming in, there will be virtually no low level gunk in the air to reflect and trap light, like on a humid night in summer. Spaceweather not really enthused with anything other than high latitudes...I have always wondered what it would take to get an aurora down here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Wow, 18z GFS is a lot sharper with the trough and looks a lot like the 12z Euro... Here's to hoping for digging and a trend West! The storm is offshore, but it won't take much to get it to the coast. As earthlight said earlier, the trough modeled won't reach the coast until about 42 hours from now so plenty of time for a change. I'd rather see these offshore lows rather than these cutters that will trend NW even more. I'm curious to see what the GEFS say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Speaking of which ...NASA is hitting the northern lights potential pretty hard as it looks like recent CME is directed at Earth. Their even talking about partial grid failures possible... They said 3:30pm is impact time, give or take 7 hours... Interesting book-ended range, but if it is the latter, than we head on into the evening hours set up about as good as any so far since the recent uptick in solar activity began last summer. The RH looks to dry out and we should be clear tonight. Not sure, I may take a ride up to the overlook at 10 or 11pm. With crystal clean canadian air coming in, there will be virtually no low level gunk in the air to reflect and trap light, like on a humid night in summer. My sirius in the car was having a hell of a time finding signal today. Not sure if it's related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski MRG Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 What a bunch of mopes. Get it together!!! Snow is inevitable! Hell, it's snowing now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Spaceweather not really enthused with anything other than high latitudes...I have always wondered what it would take to get an aurora down here. I saw one in my life. Around 1988 in Lowell. Very cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 What a bunch of mopes. Get it together!!! Snow is inevitable! Hell, it's snowing now! Feet and feet of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Board working? Looks cold on the gfs 2-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 looks like goofus maybe getting ready for something big at 189 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 wow was that anticlimatic and odd lp slides due east out to sea north of the islands LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Looks like I should pull the old goose egg for December. Weenie flakes xmas day, but calling it 0.0" for the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Looks like I should pull the old goose egg for December. Weenie flakes xmas day, but calling it 0.0" for the month. Big big month incoming..... No snow in December enjoy it. January much much better per the pundits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Big big month incoming..... No snow in December enjoy it. January much much better per the pundits. Are you pulling my leg? 00z GFS LR does look pretty cold. This 1/3-1/5 threat is on life support attm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJHurricane Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Euro a gradient pattern in the extended range. Hope to be on the north side... Whatever I may feel for myself and my brethren south of me, I would be surprised if this drought continues for all of you...there seems sure to be shots of seasonably cold air....HPC extended disco noted the uncertainty of shortwave details in 5-7 day range...even if significant to major snow is still almost difficult to come by I find it hard to believe that y'all won't star to come by more regular accumulating 1"> snows soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Nothing to see, here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Nothing to see, here. Thread title changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I blame DT for the fail.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 we'll have to watch the backside of this cold shot coming down next week. after we go into the icebox tue-thur...maybe we get something thu/fri? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 we'll have to watch the backside of this cold shot coming down next week. after we go into the icebox tue-thur...maybe we get something thu/fri? Notice I had a timeframe to the thread title. Interesting 12z GFS setup here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Phil and I were just discussing this over in the Pattern Change thread... We don't think the Jan 3 system is totally a loss just yet. There is still just enough meridional surging to the flow (tied into a +PNA spike that is well advertised and verifying as we speak), that if a stronger actual S/W gets ejected out of the Pacific than is currently modeled, we could see a sharper, faster wave break heading into the OV. That would change the sensible weather in the upper MA/NE regions upon exit, in a bit of a hurry. It may not have the look overall of those previous Euro errors, but it certainly would be a pleasant surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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