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it's easy for those of us who live several tens or hundreds of feet above sea level to say this sort of stuff, but doing so is denialism with respect to the real flooding that already occurs in Miami neighborhoods, flooding that has increased in extent, frequency and intensity over the years, even during fair weather. and let's not forget that Miami is underlain by porous limestone - the ocean will come in underneath any wall that is built. while rich people can afford to move to higher ground and/or hire companies to raise their ground, that isn't affordable 90% of the people from the perspective of the person who lives in that house in that neighborhood in the Miami suburbs dealing with increasing frequency and intensity of flooding at their house and neighborhood, my post doesn't seem "alarmist" or "absurdly-hyperbolic" or "ludicrous" at all. It's real. What do they think? How much of their neighborhood needs to be impacted before they consider their property to be affected ? How much of the population / land area of the city needs to be impacted before there is acknowledgement the health of the city is being threatened ? is it 90% ? 75% ? 50% ? And Miami is only one city; there are dozens of low-lying coastal cities across our country and world that are going to see major impacts as coastlines advance to bring this back to the point of the discussion: how much of Miami needs to be inconvenienced/undesirable/uninhabitable before we acknowledge that the cost of climate change is a factor in the cost of a watt of fossil fuel derived power ?

And NOP.....the gradient is always destined to set up like 5 mi to my north in SE NH....time and time again. Never fails. Porked again. Now the next event will be a CJ.

My one and only obs just for the hell of it. 29/23 at 730 Wont be a single flake or sleet pellet here by the time precip starts. On the plus side, might see an inch of rain! Good luck to the NW folks at elevation. An inch or 2 would be a win with this setup imo. Not bad for the very beginning of Dec, esp lately..

I see Governor Phil has declared a State of Emergency for 5 NW NJ counties. Might as well go out looking like the arsehole that he is. What a joke. I swear this guy gets his rocks off on this kind of stuff. It can't get any worse can it?????

18z EPS was also a step in the right direction, even for the York & northern Lanco crew.

Temp drop ended. Back up to 34. 33 and rain is bad enough but 34 and rain will suck the balls of a 350lb dude 2 hours after he ate 5 alarm chili with beans in summer

Don’t see any progression of warmth north . Instead a steady progression of dongs across faces south of pike

18z GFS has some fantasy cold Dec 17.

Tonights slop storm lineup

Still clear here, temp down to 28.8/21.7. Looking on satellite I'm on the very northern side of the high cirrus going W to E. Probably another hour before the clouds start filling in. MIGHT see some snow before it goes all sleet/freezing rain, just gonna have to wait and see.

With the warmth progression marching north, you’ll have to retire in NNE or your favorite country, Canada, to experience special winters again… wire to wire seasons. No reason to look at models with constant snowpack and nickel and dimers. Stress free.

Thanks for the heads up. I prob should look at the strat more. Generally, I just wanted it jostled and not spinning in a tight spiral. That would make sense given that this has occurred during recent Nina episodes. That would set the stage or cold by mid January. This could be a crazy winter.

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Temp drop is slowing down. 28.6/22.6.

This is a pretty decent slug of moisture heading our way. But it is really moving fast.

BWI: 24.1" DCA: 17.1" IAD: 27.5" RIC: 9.2" _______ Tiebreaker: (SBY) 8.5"

32/24, wet bulb 29. the temperature drop is starting to flatten out but it's still going down.

Yeah, there's some talk of it being a complete SSWE. PV is weak so if there is one it may very split the PV this time.

31/24

28/23 in Haymarket, Dominion Valley

Local weatherman agrees with you, im travelling inland for an appt where it should be all snow. Still learning the intricacies of being 2 miles from the ocean.

28 and clear after a high of 43

Looking at the HRRR we just need a model bust of 1-2f colder at ~850 for a decent thump of snow in the immediate NW suburbs

I'm sure you folks are aware of another SSW Event unfolding for mid month?