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it actually looks like a ridge lol

I just meant next week…7-8 days from now.

Looks like a big rainbow over the central US lol

we dont need to be in the blue. We can survive +1 or +2......we just cant be orange or red(temp wise)

Looks promising!!!

Probably not any more broken then any other model lol

Latest WB EURO weeklies do show the later half of month to be colder. Below anomalies for entire month. Pretty good...

I expect anything beyond D6 to jump a decent amount in terms of shortwaves. That’s often the case anyway but especially going to happen in this type of flow. Longer range is kind of a clown show right now. I wouldn’t want to forecast what early January is going to look like right now.

How unusual is this? I dont recalling seeing a 500mb pattern like this often. When are we icebox ever the same time Alaska is?

The 18z GFS appears to have lost most of its feedback with BN heights coming over the pole at to crash into the eastern ridge. The NAO bout to be tested this run. Let’s see where it goes. Just looking for consistent trends at this point and not random solutions.

as @CAPEalways says...forget the color and follow the dang lines

well the same weeklies kept it cold through Christmas into New Years until it didnt. I think Bam is going to bust and then call it win when we salvage 10% of January lol

I declare today a national day of mourning, “Pack Obliteration Day.” Repeat after me: ‘together our packs are stronger than stone, as we shovel our steps and uncover our homes, in unison let our voices say - Mother Nature, dammit, give us more snow! Before our packs grow sad, forever alone.’

Do you still expect modeling to show some big changes going forward as you did yesterday? I mean 6z(as has been the case for a while now)showed something pretty decent. Then of course 12z goes the other way. Same story as all of last week too.

That 50.6 looks like the high, been a S L O W decent since then, currently 45.3/31.8 at 5:10 pm. Took care of all the snow OTG except for made piles.

I prefer the stat of 'most consecutive days of snowpile' to the 'latest date of snowpile', and the best years to get those are one like this, where we get some decent snowpiles in mid december. Even with a few modest plowable snows spread out in a favorable way, you can keep replenishing and have a snowpile in one spot from December 14th into April.

some of those mall piles can last forever too especially if out of the sun. I've never seen June around here...usually into April into some of our snowier winters but 2010-11 was special

I will say, I prefer the warm weather over cold, but since the weather is out of my control, and it's gonna be cold, then LET IT SNOW!!

I remember years asking on this forum (or probably a predecessor forum) what's the longest they've seen a plowed pile of snow last. Someone within this forum's geographic area responded June - I want to say it wasn't plowed but rather snow that had been somehow packed in somewhere in the shade on the side of some mountain. June!

That was a fun place 50 years ago.

I understand theres only so much you can do with observation sites...but i feel the ultimate goal should always be having the best setup and doing it the right way. We see so much of "this station runs cold so its only fair this one runs warm"...or..."they undermeasured that snowfall so they should overmeasure this one".

Despite the yellows over us, this isn't exactly a warm look. Anticyclonic ridge out west where we want it, and broad cyclonic trough over midwest/east/NE. Trough NW of Hawaii with -EPO/-WPO and hint of GL blocking, with continued Scand ridging. Second half of Jan could be fun.

Never saw any rain up at 1500ft that I could tell. Snowing now with a dusting of white at 33F.

I was just thinking earlier today, what if the January thaw that we normally get was displaced by a few weeks into December instead of January. Wouldn’t that be something! Now, don’t get me wrong, I’m not calling for that, nor do I even know if there’s any precedent for that. It’s just a thought I had.

Yeah fwiw we get an EPO ridge by mid month and the NA looks decent too. This h5 look has been persistent over multiple runs so we shall see.