NEG NAO Posted 6 hours ago Author Share Posted 6 hours ago 13 minutes ago, doncat said: Since this drought started back in Sept 2024, my station is some 28" below normal. Will take a long time to catch up to normal - lawns look like they do in March ............ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 13 minutes ago, doncat said: This drought really came out of nowhere... The preceding 12 months to Sept 2024 was about 12" above normal with 60" of precip. Had to snap back other way 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Latest drought monitor update has severe drought for I-95 and SE. Would be really nice if this Mon possible rain event happens. And this strong/super Nino needs to produce with the storms over the next 6-8 months. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FPizz Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, qg_omega said: That’s not the question That hasn't been in the cards for a few days. Where have you been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 1 hour ago, doncat said: Since this drought started back in Sept 2024, my station is some 28" below normal. The ridges have become more expansive than the troughs leading to the record drought across the CONUS. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 9 minutes ago, FPizz said: That hasn't been in the cards for a few days. Where have you been? We're still in a slight risk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 43 minutes ago, jm1220 said: Latest drought monitor update has severe drought for I-95 and SE. Would be really nice if this Mon possible rain event happens. And this strong/super Nino needs to produce with the storms over the next 6-8 months. Hopefully, the EPS is correct about the wetter pattern for late June. Coincides with the cooler pattern and a deeper trough in the forecast. Very long range forecasts are trying to bring back the warmth for early July. So we need to get some rains before more potential drying warmth. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago 77 / 68 clouds. Pending on clearing most places will be topped out at mid - upper 80s, enough breaks in the clouds will get the warm areas to 90s. Fri - Sun looks great near normal / dry - great weekend upcoming. Monday the next shot at some >05 and maybe 1.00 of rain with storms etc. Trough into northeast generally 6/20 - 6/27 and near / below normal during the period. Beyond there warmer to close the month / open next , with next chance of heat. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Records: Highs: EWR: 97 (1993) NYC: 95 (1929) LGA: 95 (1994) JFK: 94 (1962) Lows: EWR: 49 (1950) NYC: 48 (1950) LGA: 49 (1950) JFK: 53 (1959) Historical: 1835: A tornado moved southeast across west central Illinois, touching down midway between Canton and Fairview. Farms were destroyed before the tornado moved across Canton, where 50 buildings were damaged or destroyed. The tornado killed 8 people, including the founder of Canton and his son.(Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1875 - A severe coastal storm (or possible hurricane) struck the Atlantic coast from Cape Cod to Nova Scotia. Eastport ME reported wind gusts to 57 mph. (David Ludlum) 1939: Anoka Tornado Takes Nine Lives; 250 Homes Ruined. The tornado struck with sudden fury at 3:28 p. m. Moving from the southwest to northeast, the towering, black, funnel-shaped cloud first struck near Corcoran, a small village a few miles southwest of Anoka. It hit a car in which four Minneapolis persons were riding, tossed it 200 yards into a field, killing several of the occupants. A local newspaper reported some chickens were stripped of many of their feathers during the tornado. (Ref. See the Image of the Chicken) (Ref. Anoka Tornado Stories) 1958 - Hailstones up to four inches in diameter killed livestock as a storm passed from Joliet to Belfry in Carbon County MT. (The Weather Channel) 1970 - Wind and rain, and hail up to seven inches deep, caused more than five million dollars damage at Oberlin KS. (The Weather Channel) 1972: Hurricane Agnes was one of the most massive June hurricanes on record. The system strengthened into a tropical storm during the night of the 15th and a hurricane on the 18th as it moved northward in the Gulf of Mexico. 1972: Hurricane Agnes moved northward through the Gulf of Mexico at 10 to 15 mph about 200 miles off the west coast of Florida. It was well west of Ft. Myers at 2000 on the 18th and passed west of Tampa near 0600z on the 19th and made landfall in the Panhandle near Cape San Blas in the afternoon. Gale force winds were felt throughout the state, but no hurricane force winds were reported. Agnes spawned the worst tropical cyclone severe weather outbreak in Florida history on this date and the 19th when the outer rainbands produced tornadoes and severe thunderstorms over the peninsula. Almost two dozen tornadoes and windstorms were reported from the Keys to Cape Canaveral. Six people were killed and 40 injured in Okeechobee when a series of windstorms, that may have been tornadoes, destroyed mobile homes at 2255z on the 18th. The highest tides in many years along the west coast destroyed homes and businesses, washed away roads and cut off access to many offshore islands. There was severe beach erosion. Damage estimates total $5 million dollars to public property and $36 million dollars to private property. One person drowned on the west coast and another death was attributed to a storm-related fatal heart attack. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History 1973: The latest significant snow (2 inches or more) on record for the Black Hills in South Dakota occurred on this date when portion of the Hills received up to 8 inches. 1987 - It was a hot day in the Upper Great Lakes Region. Nine cities in Michigan and Wisconsin reported record high temperatures for the date. The high of 90 degrees at Marquette, MI, marked their third straight day of record heat. Severe thunderstorm in the Northern and Central High Plains Region spawned half a dozen tornadoes in Wyoming and Colorado. Wheatridge, CO, was deluged with 2.5 inches of rain in one hour. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - Severe thunderstorms in eastern North Dakota and northern Minnesota produced hail three inches in diameter and spawned four tornadoes in Steele County. Thunderstorms also produced wind gusts to 80 mph at Clearbrook MN. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1989 - Unseasonably hot weather prevailed in the southwestern U.S. In Arizona, afternoon highs of 103 degrees at Winslow, 113 degrees at Tucson, and 115 degrees at Phoenix were records for the date. (The National Weather Summary) 1991: Atlanta, GA recorded a new record for the amount of rainfall in one hour as 3.47 inches fell between 6:52 pm and 7:52 pm EDT. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1993: In west central Kansas, heavy rain caused roads in the Syracuse area to flood. As much as one foot of water covered some roads for a short period of time. In Greeley County, golf ball size hail, driven by thunderstorm winds, damaged wheat and broke windows along a four mile path from five miles south of Astor to nine miles south of Astor. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1997: Over 6 inches of rain fell at Columbia, MS in a three hour period and 8.25 inches fell in a 24 hour period. Water entered thirty businesses in Columbia, with 12 of the businesses suffering major damage. Eight homes also suffered flood damage. Many roads were washed out and had to be closed. Numerous cars were under water. This event caused $15 million dollars in property damages. Several roads were also flooded across the south half of Forrest County. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1999: Record morning chill occurred across the Appalachians. Record lows for the date included: , Elkins, WV: 39 °F, Pittsburgh, PA: 43 °F, Bluefield, WV: 46 °F. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago HRRR has nothing for us. And these long range wetter patterns have not verified. Hopefully Monday works out for something-an inch would be great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qg_omega Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Just now, Brian5671 said: HRRR has nothing for us. And these long range wetter patterns have not verified. Hopefully Monday works out for something-an inch would be great. Crazy SPC was highlighting NYC South for days but the real severe today will be upstate NY to NNE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Received .07" here last 24 hours (8am - 8am) with most of that from a very localized fast moving heavy downpour yesterday afternoon. Just some very light scattered showers so far this morning and it looks like that will be it for the day. We pin our hopes to Monday for something decent. Signal has been consistent for 1"+ so we wait and see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Brian5671 said: Definitely a flip towards a longer term drier pattern Yeah, a drought was well overdue. Prior to the drought beginning in September 2024, it had been over 20 years since we had one (the previous one ended in fall 2002). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 4 hours ago Author Share Posted 4 hours ago Amazing how most of the showers fall apart as they are moving northeast towards the metro from southeast PA - lets see if that moderate to heavy batch near York PA survive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 43 minutes ago, qg_omega said: Crazy SPC was highlighting NYC South for days but the real severe today will be upstate NY to NNE Congrats on the Wind Advisory and Torando Watch in Bolton Landing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Picard Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago 31 minutes ago, MANDA said: Received .07" here last 24 hours (8am - 8am) with most of that from a very localized fast moving heavy downpour yesterday afternoon. Just some very light scattered showers so far this morning and it looks like that will be it for the day. We pin our hopes to Monday for something decent. Signal has been consistent for 1"+ so we wait and see. Ha! I beat you by 0.01! 0.08 here. We're really racking it up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago If someone would’ve told me a few years back that most of the country would be in a drought while California was fully moisturized I wouldn't have believed them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwx21 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 16 hours ago, Stormlover74 said: Hopefully we get at least a quarter inch tomorrow I was hoping for a little something today but obviously it doesn't look good. I know SPC still has us in a slight risk most models give us nothing. Monday continues to look like our one big chance to get a soaking, so hopefully it will deliver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Precip on radar us drying up as ut moves east :/ Western NY along the great lakes just getting hammered again this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, steve392 said: Precip on radar us drying up as ut moves east :/ Western NY along the great lakes just getting hammered again this week. Today's a bust for sure here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago More sun now - and up to 82 / 68, think we have a similar 24 hour hot day the 23-24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Upton's changed AFD as of 11:45am: -- Changed Discussion -- Have increased wind gust potential to 40 to 35 mph for this afternoon in evening, and decreased thunderstorm coverage for late this morning into afternoon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve392 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Winds howling, skues clearing and temps climbing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Brian5671 said: Today's a bust for sure here I might be issuing a BUST WATCH for Monday as we get closer the way things have been verifying here lately. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 9 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: I might be issuing a BUST WATCH for Monday as we get closer the way things have been verifying here lately. GFS still has it as of now...but I could see that disappearing or missing south 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted 56 minutes ago Share Posted 56 minutes ago 4 hours ago, bluewave said: The ridges have become more expansive than the troughs leading to the record drought across the CONUS. Good! We needed to dry out. It was becoming like Florida. Not you, but to other posters… we are not in a drought! If you think this is a drought, you don’t even know what a drought is. Being abnormally dry is worlds away from drought conditions. anybody else remember John Paul, arriving at Newark and it raining and he showed the sprinkle sign from above? That was a drought. The early 2000s has another drought. anybody on here trying to make the past year sound like a drought, it’s just being sensationalist and trying to make something bigger than it is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyHolikWillFindYou Posted 48 minutes ago Share Posted 48 minutes ago Call me a conspiracy theorist, but is it possible that the rapid expansion of open-loop data centers is contributing to current drought conditions? Maybe not in the tri-state area but still food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 44 minutes ago Share Posted 44 minutes ago That wind is whippin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted 32 minutes ago Share Posted 32 minutes ago 44 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: I might be issuing a BUST WATCH for Monday as we get closer the way things have been verifying here lately. the fail mode is having the low trend too far north at the last minute but the ai eps has been steadfast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 32 minutes ago Share Posted 32 minutes ago 39 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: Good! We needed to dry out. It was becoming like Florida. Not you, but to other posters… we are not in a drought! If you think this is a drought, you don’t even know what a drought is. Being abnormally dry is worlds away from drought conditions. anybody else remember John Paul, arriving at Newark and it raining and he showed the sprinkle sign from above? That was a drought. The early 2000s has another drought. anybody on here trying to make the past year sound like a drought, it’s just being sensationalist and trying to make something bigger than it is. Luckily, a drought in a region like ours without a well defined dry season like the West into the Plains hasn’t historically become as severe yet since we average much more precipitation here. The worst 1960s droughts in the Northeast didn’t have the same consequences as the Dust Bowl in the Plains during the 1930s or the historic drought issues being experienced in the West during recent times. Yes, the NYC reservoirs are doing much better since the last water restrictions in 2001-2002. But agricultural and gardening interests will have issues in a warmer climate era with the heat causing more evaporation than the old days. My area near the CT Shore had one of its driest summers last year and all the vegetation was brown. Even some local reservoirs dipped to low levels leading to some watering restrictions. Some smaller water district areas like portions of NJ they are getting close to having water supply conservation again after some reservoirs running very low a few years ago. We need more rain to remain out of drought since our climate has become so much warmer. Plus the expansive nature of the drought across the entire CONUS will have major impacts for many areas. So just by saying that NYC is doing fine compared to 2001-2002 misses the other consequences of expanding drought. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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