“Cory’s in NYC! Let’s HECS!” Feb. 22-24 Disco

[HoarfrostHubb]

22 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

But he is one of the best ever despite that stat…period. 

I know. I’m just busting.   Probably my most respected Yankee ever.  

[SJonesWX]

1 hour ago, Damage In Tolland said:

I’ve been naked and free before, but never quite this naked or this free

wife out of town?

[Baroclinic Zone]

My P&C has accumulations of 19-29” 

[bristolri_wx]

Things got real here got a real emergency alert EAS tones and all on my phone for the Blizzard Warning. Don’t get these often.

[HIPPYVALLEY]

5 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Still playing NW catchup and not close 

Yeah, I can’t see Hartford only getting .7” QPF. 

[ScituateMA]

Never seen a Civil emergency message before, is this new?

[weatherwiz]

1 minute ago, ScituateMA said:

Never seen a Civil emergency message before, is this new?

No, they are sometimes issued for wildfires, child abductions, a hazardous spill, etc.

[ScituateMA]

Just now, weatherwiz said:

No, they are sometimes issued for wildfires, child abductions, a hazardous spill, etc.

Makes sense. Dont recall seeing them when I lived near wildfires in colorado but I think I was checking other resources. Thanks for the info. 

 

Stay safe everyone. 

[CoastalWx]

Hrrr is about 65kts here at 950. Jesus. 70kts just east. I think in the October 2021 storm it was like 75kts here at 950. Granted the 65kts on hrrr is at hr 18 so may go stronger.

[Ginx snewx]

57 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

It stands for Moist or maybe it's mixed .. Absolute Unstable Layer.  It's basically where the WCB splits near the occlusion triple point - the eastern split rides up the warm frontal glide and discipates into the entrance jet regions.  The western split is the goodies!  It peels back west on the N side of the cyclone cylinder..., rising over the cold wedge that is on the N and NW side of the occluded formation, where it is made to be exceptionally unstable in an elevated layer.  This is where it services us with lightning and thunder snow rates, particularly if there is a 300 mb entrance jet fan on the N side of occluded boundary.   That gives it a difluence assist and the lift can be insane where MAUL is delivering warm moist air ( into the snow growth region in cold cyclone models).    I'll try and draw a picture of this... 

https://youtu.be/v2AC41dglnM?si=9lPNUZLEjJbQBsUE

[bristolri_wx]

4 minutes ago, ScituateMA said:

Never seen a Civil emergency message before, is this new?

We like our emergencies civil here in RI.

[HIPPYVALLEY]

11 minutes ago, SJonesWX said:

wife out of town?

Maybe doing a Brokeback Blizzard weekend? 

[ineedsnow]

already getting a stiff east breeze here at times... bed 7pm to 12am then let the fun begin 

[mattm4242]

Yeah I’m definitely going to lose power 

[Damage In Tolland]

Just now, ineedsnow said:

already getting a stiffy here at times... bed 7pm to 12am then let the hands down pants fun begin 

Why would you share something like that here ?

[moneypitmike]

Is that a 3.2 on Mattapoisett????  Good Lord!

[JACKASS]

1 minute ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Why would you share something like that here ?

Like you won't be doing the same thing?!

[vortex95]

11 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Hrrr is about 65kts here at 950. Jesus. 70kts just east. I think in the October 2021 storm it was like 75kts here at 950. Granted the 65kts on hrrr is at hr 18 so may go stronger.

No trees left in GHG after this!?

[vortex95]

Have to get this off my chest!

There is a lot of talk going around comparing this to the Blizzard of '78 or "will be like" the Blizzard of '78.  To deflate the senseless click-bait hype and assuage fears, it will not be anything like the Blizzard of '78 when looking at the entire picture, and the details count here as well!

Both from a meteorological and non-meteorological standpoint, this imminent storm will not reach the legendary status of 1978.  I can  say that w/ high confidence.  Why?, b/c when you know history and 

circumstances, not only for storms, but also how society has changed, the picture becomes clear.

In this post, I will talk about the more obvious and straightforward, the non-meteorological parts/factors

Preparations leading up to a storm are *everything*, or at least a lot more  that many think, as to lessening overall impact.  As I have said before, a disaster is typically only as bad as the preparations, or lack of, before it. This does not mean very high impact still does not occur, but so much "bad" is averted or mitigated.

The forecasts for the Blizzard of '78 were not that good overall, so many from  the individual to local/state agencies were not prepared.  This almost never happens anymore for storms, certainly not for the really big and high-end ones, and the science of forecasting and modelling have improved immensely over time.  

And the way we get information has also dramatically changed, so it is very hard *not* to know what is going on w/ the weather now.  Yes, it has gone the other way w/ *too* much hype for every single event, no matter how small or typical, and that has its own share of issues, 

but we are hardly ever "caught by surprise," at least for big winter storms.

So something like the Blizzard of '78 Rt 128 disaster w/ 1000s of ppl stuck and cars stranded resulting in the highway closed for a week, simply cannot happen now.  Ppl know to stay off the roads and businesses closed down for the storm, so the road crews can do their job.

So from what I said above, physically that made the Blizzard of '78 much worse, and also psychologically was huge b/c witnessing the region paralyzed like that is an unsettling thought, to say the least!

Another aspect, snow removal has evolved over the decades, and we are much better at it.  From better chemicals to put down on the road to the actual snow removal equipment itself to how it is all coordinated. We learned a lot from the Blizzard of '78 and many other blockbuster snowstorms since then, and that's a good thing!

There are a lot more private contractors plowing now than 50 years ago, and things like those little Bobcat front-end loaders are ubiquitous now.  Didn't see those much in the region through the 1980s for snow removal.  Snow removal has become big business!

And the general population knows ahead of time what is coming, so the shock and awe factor is much less.  Ppl change their plans, stock up on supplies, and think of various contingencies, like if power goes out.  This  smooths out the impact of the storm psychologically, and again, that is a good thing!

 

[Damage In Tolland]

Just now, vortex95 said:

Have to get this off my chest!

There is a lot of talk going around comparing this to the Blizzard of '78 or
"will be like" the Blizzard of '78.  To deflate the senseless click-bait
hype and assuage fears, it will not be anything like the Blizzard of '78
when looking at the entire picture, and the details count here as well!

Both from a meteorological and non-meteorological standpoint, this
imminent storm will not reach the legendary status of 1978,.  I can 

say that w/ high confidence.  Why?, b/c when you know history and 

circumstances, not only for storms, but also how society has changed, 

the picture becomes clear.

In this post, I will talk about the  more obvious and straightforward,
the non-meteorological parts/factors

Preparations leading up to a storm are *everything*, or at least a 

lot more  that many think, as to lessening overall impact.  As I have 

said before, a disaster is typically only as bad as the preparations, 

or lack of, before it. This does not mean very high impact still does 

not occur, but so much "bad" is averted or mitigated.

The forecasts for the Blizzard of '78 were not that good overall, so 

many from  the individual to local/state agencies were not prepared. 

This almost never happens anymore for storms, certainly not for the 

really big and high-end ones, and the science of forecasting and 

modelling have improved immensely over time.  

And the way we get information has also dramatically changed, so it 

is very hard *not* to know what is going on w/ the weather now.  Yes, 

it has gone the other way w/ *too* much hype for every single event,

no matter how small or typical, and that has its own share of issues, 

but we are hardly ever "caught by surprise," at least for big winter 

storms.

So something like the Blizzard of '78 Rt 128 disaster w/ 1000s of ppl 

stuck and cars stranded resulting in the highway closed for a week, 

simply can not happen now.  Ppl know to stay off the roads and 

businesses closed down for the storm, so the road crews can do their

job.

So from what I said above, physically that made the Blizzard of '78 

much worse, and also psychologically was huge b/c witnessing the 

region paralyzed like that is an unsettling thought, to say the least!

Another aspect, snow removal has evolved over the decades, and we 

are much better at it.  From better chemicals to put down on the road

to the actual snow removal equipment itself to how it is all coordinated. 

We learned a lot from the Blizzard of '78 and many other blockbuster 

snowstorms since then, and that's a good thing!

There are a lot more private contractors plowing now than 50 years ago, 

and things like those little Bobcat front-end loaders are ubiquitous now.  

Didn't see those much in the region through the 1980s for snow removal. 

Snow removal has become big business!

And the general population knows ahead of time what is coming, so the 

shock and awe factor is much less.  Ppl change their plans, stock up on 

supplies, and think of various contingencies, like if power goes out.  This 

smooths out the impact of the storm psychologically, and again, that is a 

good thing!

 

 

When did you give Tip your phone to post?

[ORH_wxman]

This won’t have near the duration of ‘78 either. 

[HIPPYVALLEY]

Just now, ORH_wxman said:

This won’t have near the duration of ‘78 either. 

Bingo!

[weatherwiz]

So fun to watch

[vortex95]

3 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

When did you give Tip your phone to post?

If I repeated what has already been said, I apologize.  I have not read every posts on this thread.  Let CoastalWx-type weenie-ism do that!  

[nianticct]

Also the public stupid or ill informed now was at a big disadvantage back then!

[ChangeofSeasonsWX]

1978 was like a 1 in 100 year event probably. 1888 was the last one of that magnitude, although it hit further west than 1978 did.

[ScituateMA]

2 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

This won’t have near the duration of ‘78 either. 

If this storm stalled out and was on a spring tide it would have been catastrophic

[Ginx snewx]

Where's Maine Jayhawk with over 30 gun salute Fire!!

[WxWatcher007]

5 minutes ago, weatherwiz said:

So fun to watch

As long as it doesn't slide east  

[Ginx snewx]

9 minutes ago, vortex95 said:

Have to get this off my chest!

There is a lot of talk going around comparing this to the Blizzard of '78 or "will be like" the Blizzard of '78.  To deflate the senseless click-bait hype and assuage fears, it will not be anything like the Blizzard of '78 when looking at the entire picture, and the details count here as well!

Both from a meteorological and non-meteorological standpoint, this imminent storm will not reach the legendary status of 1978.  I can  say that w/ high confidence.  Why?, b/c when you know history and 

circumstances, not only for storms, but also how society has changed, the picture becomes clear.

In this post, I will talk about the more obvious and straightforward, the non-meteorological parts/factors

Preparations leading up to a storm are *everything*, or at least a lot more  that many think, as to lessening overall impact.  As I have said before, a disaster is typically only as bad as the preparations, or lack of, before it. This does not mean very high impact still does not occur, but so much "bad" is averted or mitigated.

The forecasts for the Blizzard of '78 were not that good overall, so many from  the individual to local/state agencies were not prepared.  This almost never happens anymore for storms, certainly not for the really big and high-end ones, and the science of forecasting and modelling have improved immensely over time.  

And the way we get information has also dramatically changed, so it is very hard *not* to know what is going on w/ the weather now.  Yes, it has gone the other way w/ *too* much hype for every single event, no matter how small or typical, and that has its own share of issues, 

but we are hardly ever "caught by surprise," at least for big winter storms.

So something like the Blizzard of '78 Rt 128 disaster w/ 1000s of ppl stuck and cars stranded resulting in the highway closed for a week, simply cannot happen now.  Ppl know to stay off the roads and businesses closed down for the storm, so the road crews can do their job.

So from what I said above, physically that made the Blizzard of '78 much worse, and also psychologically was huge b/c witnessing the region paralyzed like that is an unsettling thought, to say the least!

Another aspect, snow removal has evolved over the decades, and we are much better at it.  From better chemicals to put down on the road to the actual snow removal equipment itself to how it is all coordinated. We learned a lot from the Blizzard of '78 and many other blockbuster snowstorms since then, and that's a good thing!

There are a lot more private contractors plowing now than 50 years ago, and things like those little Bobcat front-end loaders are ubiquitous now.  Didn't see those much in the region through the 1980s for snow removal.  Snow removal has become big business!

And the general population knows ahead of time what is coming, so the shock and awe factor is much less.  Ppl change their plans, stock up on supplies, and think of various contingencies, like if power goes out.  This  smooths out the impact of the storm psychologically, and again, that is a good thing!

 

You missed the most costly aspect of 78. Lunar cycle and High astro tides.