weatherpruf Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Islandersguy said: It’s ridiculous, all about money these days for which most of the time is spent on nonsense. That being said let it snow!! . schools are where peoples' taxes and children come together. it is among the most important beats a reporter can have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago WS Watch issued "Heavy Snow with total snow accumulations exceeding 6 inches possible. Winds could gust as high as 35 MPH" Conservative call for now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Nibor said: The scale of impact of that storm probably makes it 3 or higher. The preliminary RSI value for the Northeast was Category 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metasequoia Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Lucy Pull said: Agree, geographic area and sporadic maximum snow areas across a large portion of the country. Wondering what NESIS will come in at. Well... the storm is certainly impactful enough to be ranked on the NESIS scale... and likely at least 3... I agree. If that's the definition of a KU... sure. I have never thought there was a hard and fast standard for KU delineation... it's kind of a you know it when you see it. Am I wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njwx7 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago SREF looking good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freezing Drizzle Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 36 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: This is still playing it pretty conservative for our area. I told my Wife "12 to 18 inches" and she said, "In your dreams" LOL I think our wives are twin sisters separated at birth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Just now, TJW014 said: WS Watch issued "Heavy Snow with total snow accumulations exceeding 6 inches possible. Winds could gust as high as 35 MPH" Conservative call for now. No reason to get more specific yet. This is still over 48 hours away. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralNJSnowman Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 38 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: This is still playing it pretty conservative for our area. I told my Wife "12 to 18 inches" and she said, "In your dreams" LOL And then she added "And by the way...I doubt the snowstorm will be that big either" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, njwx7 said: SREF looking good! A little too right leaning for my liking, but I'm nitpicking now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wthrmn654 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Plenty of snow pack left too add onto as well! Since still haven't hit 40°F lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPcantmeasuresnow Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Islandersguy said: The overall reason NYC doesn’t have wiggle room is because they now give a holiday for everything because they feel remote learning is sufficient enough. . It isn't. I'll leave it at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmillz25 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 14 minutes ago, Metasequoia said: NYC got about a foot... granted with about 1.8 qpf... just feels not quite enough. Do others classify this storm as a KU? I would be interested to know. Boston got close to 2ft so it would be considered a ku Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metasequoia Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 1 minute ago, dmillz25 said: Boston got close to 2ft so it would be considered a ku For Boston. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 6 minutes ago, Metasequoia said: Well... the storm is certainly impactful enough to be ranked on the NESIS scale... and likely at least 3... I agree. If that's the definition of a KU... sure. I have never thought there was a hard and fast standard for KU delineation... it's kind of a you know it when you see it. Am I wrong? the impact of the heavy sleet on top of the snow makes it as impactful as a deeper snow; it was a very hard cleanup with crews still working locally even last week. i've never seen cleanup efforts take so long, not even march 93, which was even icier...but it warmed up after a few days. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 2 hours ago, Wxbear25 said: The issue is how the models are handling that initial piece of energy to hit the coastline, which is the energy that spawns that “eastern low” The models have continuously trended towards this being more meridionally oriented, and thus more closely involved with the main s/w energy, with the GFS leading the way to this point in that regard There won’t be an “eastern low” or a “western low”, at least for any extended time there’s going to be one low, and the question is how well the big chunk of energy can rein in that front running stuff The GFS is the only model going negative tilt so fast so the low tucks in more near the coast. All the other guidance has the low consolidating a little further east and a slower negative tilt. The GFS is usually incorrect when its coastal low is the furthest west of all the other guidance. Sometimes the Euro does the same thing. I would probably shade toward the other guidance at this point and just broad brush the forecast to indicate that the chances for a 6”+ event near the coast are increasing and issue winter storm watches and wait until tomorrow to refine the warnings and higher end potential areas. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago There's no definition of a KU if/until they publish another edition. It was a curated list. It's like a HOF debate in sports. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago I'm nervous about this storm. 50 miles East and NYC gets advisory level snow. 50 miles west and it's a major KU. There's almost no room for error. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Hold on and love your significant other and kids like Mt Holly does to the NBM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherGeek2025 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brooklynwx99 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, bluewave said: The GFS is the only model going negative tilt so fast so the low tucks in more near the coast. All the other guidance has the low consolidating a little further east. The GFS is usually incorrect when its coastal low is the furthest west of all the other guidance. Sometimes the Euro does the same thing. I would probably shade toward the other guidance at this point and just broad brush the forecast to indicate that the chances for a 6”+ event near the coast are increasing and issue winter storm watches and wait until tomorrow to refine the warnings and higher end potential areas. considering that the GFS has absolutely owned literally every other piece of guidance so far, I might give it a bit more credence 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfer67 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, TriPol said: I'm nervous about this storm. 50 miles East and NYC gets advisory level snow. 50 miles west and it's a major KU. There's almost no room for error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 2 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said: considering that the GFS has absolutely owned literally every other piece of guidance so far, I might give it a bit more credence Plus there's ensemble support. It's a bit early but the GFS has done really well with this, shockingly so. Very consistent too. Broken clock type scenario 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriPol Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 3 minutes ago, WeatherGeek2025 said: Who is saying this??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastonSN+ Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 12 minutes ago, CPcantmeasuresnow said: A little too right leaning for my liking, but I'm nitpicking now. Its probably moving a little towards EURO and EURO AI 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 2/20 18z SREF Total QPF 2/22 - 2/23 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 6 minutes ago, brooklynwx99 said: considering that the GFS has absolutely owned literally every other piece of guidance so far, I might give it a bit more credence It’s the always last 12 to 48 hrs of the forecast which really counts. We won’t be there until tomorrow into the Sunday 0z runs. But it’s certainly possible that we get a meet in the middle scenario between the most westerly GFS and the other guidance. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said: Mt holly issued watches They really covered themselves - no upper limit of snow amounts and it extends all the way into Eastern PA WSW from KPHI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 2/20 18z Summary Total QPF NYC 2/22 - 2/23-24 SFRE F: 1.0 NAM: 2.3 RGEM: 0.6 ICON: 1.2 GFS AI AIGFS: 1.5 GFS: 2.2 GEFS: 1.7 EURO AI AIFS: 1.3 EURO : 0.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago 7 minutes ago, TriPol said: I'm nervous about this storm. 50 miles East and NYC gets advisory level snow. 50 miles west and it's a major KU. There's almost no room for error. There’s very rarely room for error in any major snowstorm we get and the trends are in our favor. I’ll gladly take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rmine1 Posted 12 hours ago Share Posted 12 hours ago Upton has rain/snow mix for Sunday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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