Nibor Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wannabehippie Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 37 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: Get ready folks ! From where is this image? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago After all this we are going to put a near goose egg in the snowfall books for February? Is this really unfolding in front of us? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Chill Ice box 2/7 EWR; 28 / 7 (-16) NYC: 27 / 6 (-17) LGA; 28 / 7 (-17) JFK: 28 / 6 (-16) 2/8: EWR: 19 / 5 (-22) NYC: 18 / 3 (-24) LGA: 20 / 5 (-22) JFK: 18 / 3 (-22) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: After all this we are going to put a near goose egg in the snowfall books for February? Is this really unfolding in front of us? I don't think we'll be completely shut out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: After all this we are going to put a near goose egg in the snowfall books for February? Is this really unfolding in front of us? Too much of a good thing (the cold) Dry as a bone since the 1/25 storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: Too much of a good thing (the cold) Dry as a bone since the 1/25 storm Lets hope when the forecasted proverbial flood gates open 2/15-2/16 we can hold onto the cold for some duration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Most of this or nearly all of this is from 2/15 into 2/16 Sun / Mon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intensewind002 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: Too much of a good thing (the cold) Dry as a bone since the 1/25 storm Straight out of the 70s and 80s winters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 23 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: After all this we are going to put a near goose egg in the snowfall books for February? Is this really unfolding in front of us? FYI today is Feb. 9th - premature IMO to even entertain that thought sorry ! Reminds me of all the warmsters here back in early January 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago It’s par for the course after the 1995-1996 winter for consecutive 10”+ snowfall months to be followed by one under 10”. Very difficult to go 3 in a row in the this area. Snowy patterns have been difficult to sustain for more than a month or two around here. These are all the winters at ISP with 10”+ Decembers. Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY 10”+ months bolded Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 2009-2010 0.0 25.3 6.4 21.7 0.4 0.0 53.8 2002-2003 1.0 16.0 2.6 26.3 3.7 5.0 54.6 2003-2004 0.0 15.5 19.1 1.1 5.7 0.0 41.4 2010-2011 T 14.9 34.4 3.9 2.1 T 55.3 1995-1996 3.0 13.3 20.2 19.0 12.0 9.6 77.1 2025-2026 T 12.5 14.9 1.2 M M 28.6 1969-1970 T 12.0 7.0 7.0 1.0 T 27.0 1975-1976 T 11.0 7.8 7.5 3.9 0.0 30.2 1963-1964 T 11.0 11.7 16.0 1.0 0.0 39.7 2000-2001 0.0 10.8 9.2 8.6 10.3 T 38.9 2008-2009 T 10.4 8.9 3.3 13.6 T 36.2 1988-1989 0.0 10.4 4.4 1.2 3.0 T 19.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MANDA Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Two interesting videos: https://x.com/i/status/2020641229676089405 https://x.com/i/status/2020626195717714010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NyWxGuy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 32 minutes ago, the_other_guy said: After all this we are going to put a near goose egg in the snowfall books for February? Is this really unfolding in front of us? Yes. Steve D from NYNJPA weather says we’re In a lose lose situation for the weekend. Trough digs too much in southeast so it’s a southern slider or the western trough digs too much so the storm amps up and cuts. No favorable pattern for snow for mid Atlantic for a while, he says. Our hopes for an average snowfall season will have to hinge on a March SSW I believe 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, bluewave said: It’s par for the course after the 1995-1996 winter for consecutive 10”+ snowfall months to be followed by one under 10”. Very difficult to go 3 in a row in the this area. Snowy patterns have been difficult to sustain for more than a month or two around here. These are all the winters at ISP with 10”+ Decembers. Monthly Total Snowfall for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY 10”+ months bolded Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 2009-2010 0.0 25.3 6.4 21.7 0.4 0.0 53.8 2002-2003 1.0 16.0 2.6 26.3 3.7 5.0 54.6 2003-2004 0.0 15.5 19.1 1.1 5.7 0.0 41.4 2010-2011 T 14.9 34.4 3.9 2.1 T 55.3 1995-1996 3.0 13.3 20.2 19.0 12.0 9.6 77.1 2025-2026 T 12.5 14.9 1.2 M M 28.6 1969-1970 T 12.0 7.0 7.0 1.0 T 27.0 1975-1976 T 11.0 7.8 7.5 3.9 0.0 30.2 1963-1964 T 11.0 11.7 16.0 1.0 0.0 39.7 2000-2001 0.0 10.8 9.2 8.6 10.3 T 38.9 2008-2009 T 10.4 8.9 3.3 13.6 T 36.2 1988-1989 0.0 10.4 4.4 1.2 3.0 T 19.0 NYC average snowfall for February is still under 10 inches - anything more is above average of course and not expected BUT not impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, NyWxGuy said: Yes. Steve D from NYNJPA weather says we’re In a lose lose situation for the weekend. Trough digs too much in southeast so it’s a southern slider or the western trough digs too much so the storm amps up and cuts. No favorable pattern for snow for mid Atlantic for a while, he says. Our hopes for an average snowfall season will have to hinge on a March SSW I believe Storm is not going to cut past the lower Ohio Valley because of all the blocking up north - it's going to be a Miller B where it reforms somewhere off the Mid- Atlantic coast and all the fine details are not obvious yet more questions than answers at the moment . As for Steve he has a knack for busts in his forecast just like many others online - not that there is anything wrong with that . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 10 minutes ago, NyWxGuy said: Yes. Steve D from NYNJPA weather says we’re In a lose lose situation for the weekend. Trough digs too much in southeast so it’s a southern slider or the western trough digs too much so the storm amps up and cuts. No favorable pattern for snow for mid Atlantic for a while, he says. Our hopes for an average snowfall season will have to hinge on a March SSW I believe What good is a March SSWE going to do? March is a spring month. There’s always a lag of weeks between when one happens and when it affects the tropospheric pattern. Met spring starts 3/1 and astronomical spring starts on 3/20. If you want a cold, wet/rainy spring then I guess you’d root for it….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, snowman19 said: What good is a March SSWE going to do? March is a spring month. There’s always a lag of weeks between when one happens and when it affects the tropospheric pattern. Met spring starts 3/1 and astronomical spring starts on 3/20. If you want a cold, wet/rainy spring then I guess you’d root for it….. yeah you need it by about 2/20 for it to pay any dividends. March 2018 had the SSW in mid Feb and then we had the epic month 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_other_guy Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 30 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: FYI today is Feb. 9th - premature IMO to even entertain that thought sorry ! Reminds me of all the warmsters here back in early January yeah, but we could see out a week. So it’s really not February 9. We’re really up to February 15 in a 28 day month. All we know is we’re halfway with nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago 20 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: NYC average snowfall for February is still under 10 inches - anything more is above average of course and not expected BUT not impossible We lost the snowy pattern back in late January. December was very unusual in that it was the first time we had two 4-8” clippers over such a short stretch for the month. It was the perfect 500mb pattern for maxing out the Northern Stream snowfall potential. That pattern shifted in January which opened the door to our first widespread benchmark 10”+ snowstorm since 2022 as the forcing shifted east of the Dateline allowing the STJ to become active for a week. The only time our area had multiple 10”+ snowstorms under 7 days apart was in February 1994. So that 2nd event which brought record snows to the Carolinas statistically would have been tough to pull off since we need more time for NESIS snowstorm patterns to reload here. While we could have more accumulating snow before the season ends, this faster split flow regime probably won’t be able produce another widespread 10”+ benchmark event near the coast here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 48 minutes ago Share Posted 48 minutes ago 1 hour ago, the_other_guy said: After all this we are going to put a near goose egg in the snowfall books for February? Is this really unfolding in front of us? it is looking that way. frankly, i'm sick of the frigid air and salt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 47 minutes ago Share Posted 47 minutes ago 49 minutes ago, Intensewind002 said: Straight out of the 70s and 80s winters we had more rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted 46 minutes ago Share Posted 46 minutes ago 11 minutes ago, bluewave said: We lost the snowy pattern back in late January. December was very unusual in that it was the first time we had two 4-8” clippers over such a short stretch for the month. It was the perfect 500mb pattern for maxing out the Northern Stream snowfall potential. That pattern shifted in January which opened the door to our first widespread benchmark 10”+ snowstorm since 2022 as the forcing shifted east of the Dateline allowing the STJ to become active for a week. The only time our area had multiple 10”+ snowstorms under 7 days apart was in February 1994. So that 2nd event which brought record snows to the Carolinas statistically would have been tough to pull off since we need more time for NESIS snowstorm patterns to reload here. While we could have more accumulating snow before the season ends, this faster split flow regime probably won’t be able produce another widespread 10”+ benchmark event near the coast here. I have almost 31” for the season so I can’t call that a disappointment (even if it’s a little below normal for the season still) but it would be a major bummer still if we strike out on snow from here on out. Pretty confident though we can still get enough together to make it above average. Central Park is further away from normal 21”, it might be tough getting them to near 30” even though a couple events were undermeasured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherpruf Posted 44 minutes ago Share Posted 44 minutes ago 26 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: Storm is not going to cut past the lower Ohio Valley because of all the blocking up north - it's going to be a Miller B where it reforms somewhere off the Mid- Atlantic coast and all the fine details are not obvious yet more questions than answers at the moment . As for Steve he has a knack for busts in his forecast just like many others online - not that there is anything wrong with that . if there is one guy i wouldn't put much stock into, it is this guy. i've seen him hold onto forecasts when it was obvious he was wrong, and most others had abandoned ship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 43 minutes ago Share Posted 43 minutes ago Bright sunshine and to 22 here, what a difference when the winds calm ,almost shorts weather 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 43 minutes ago Author Share Posted 43 minutes ago 1 minute ago, weatherpruf said: if there is one guy i wouldn't put much stock into, it is this guy. i've seen him hold onto forecasts when it was obvious he was wrong, and most others had abandoned ship. But everything he says in this case makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted 38 minutes ago Share Posted 38 minutes ago 23 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: yeah you need it by about 2/20 for it to pay any dividends. March 2018 had the SSW in mid Feb and then we had the epic month Correct. 2/21 is when winter really starts to wind down. “Prime” snow season for us is 12/20 - 2/20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WX-PA Posted 38 minutes ago Share Posted 38 minutes ago 25 minutes ago, snowman19 said: What good is a March SSWE going to do? March is a spring month. There’s always a lag of weeks between when one happens and when it affects the tropospheric pattern. Met spring starts 3/1 and astronomical spring starts on 3/20. If you want a cold, wet/rainy spring then I guess you’d root for it….. There have been many snowstorms in March,some blizzards. Yes you can get temps in the 70's but the next day it can snow..March has always been that type of month here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastalplainsnowman Posted 36 minutes ago Share Posted 36 minutes ago 1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said: I don't think we'll be completely shut out How many times this meteorological winter will we say with confidence that this time there’s no way it’s going to snow meaningfully again looking out beyond ten days, only for a new threat to materialize immediately after. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 31 minutes ago Share Posted 31 minutes ago 15 minutes ago, weatherpruf said: it is looking that way. frankly, i'm sick of the frigid air and salt. Roads around here are not blacktop anymore - they are grey/whitetop - pothole season right around the corner.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 23 minutes ago Share Posted 23 minutes ago 7 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: Roads around here are not blacktop anymore - they are grey/whitetop - pothole season right around the corner.......... I wouldn't mind if 2/15-16 is a driving rainstorm to wash it all away Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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