Gobucks15 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 we all know this will be ef2 cause nws refuses to ever rate an ef5 ever aginThe fact the Mayfield, KY tornado was not rated EF5 still bugs me to this day. This was easily the most violent tornado we’ve seen in a long time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxSynopsisDavid Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 4 minutes ago, Gobucks15 said: The fact the Mayfield, KY tornado was not rated EF5 still bugs me to this day. This was easily the most violent tornado we’ve seen in a long time I agree with that statement. 2 sections of that damage path warranted EF5. The subdivision near the water (can’t remember if he exact location) featured numerous well built homes wiped clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Can we at least wait for the surveys to get in? And also, yes this tornado will get EF4+. We can have the other debate when it's finalized. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Going to be a nothing burger for LOT 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 https://x.com/ReedTimmerUSA/status/1793091049566675245?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Seems like these warnings in Wisconsin were all about wind threat and no tornadoes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Was a pretty intense night of storms. Had a QLCS train over the area with three main cores hitting us. The third was the strongest. Giving us about a 10 minute period of 65+ mph winds with a few stretches of 70+. Also heavy rain, the backyard is a lake now 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Good call with @Chicago Storm for LOT. Straight garbage. Should have watered the garden tonight… 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 2 minutes ago, SchaumburgStormer said: Good call with @Chicago Storm for LOT. Straight garbage. Should have watered the garden tonight… Haha yeah I was out watering earlier when it was still thundering. Probably looked crazy at the time but I knew we weren't gonna get squat at that point. Most of the guidance had storms decaying well east of the MS river, but in reality they started shitting the bed way before that while still in east Iowa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 I agree with that statement. 2 sections of that damage path warranted EF5. The subdivision near the water (can’t remember if he exact location) featured numerous well built homes wiped clean.Rolling Fork was right there too. Probably even closer than most realize to getting EF-5 ultimately. Sent from my SM-G998U using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinski1990 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 14 hours ago, WxSynopsisDavid said: I agree with that statement. 2 sections of that damage path warranted EF5. The subdivision near the water (can’t remember if he exact location) featured numerous well built homes wiped clean. The Bremen area was ef5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 DOW finding winds well in excess of the EF5 threshold 44 m AGL while the tornado was in Greenfield. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 22 minutes ago, andyhb said: DOW finding winds well in excess of the EF5 threshold 44 m AGL while the tornado was in Greenfield. Just insane. Watching that video though, the vortices were just incredibly powerful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 13 hours ago, cyclone77 said: Haha yeah I was out watering earlier when it was still thundering. Probably looked crazy at the time but I knew we weren't gonna get squat at that point. Most of the guidance had storms decaying well east of the MS river, but in reality they started shitting the bed way before that while still in east Iowa. It seems the whole system trended stronger and more north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largetornado Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Preliminary reports indicating a storm chaser was among the fatalaties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 17 hours ago, WxSynopsisDavid said: I agree with that statement. 2 sections of that damage path warranted EF5. The subdivision near the water (can’t remember if he exact location) featured numerous well built homes wiped clean. The “homes wiped clean” doesn’t seem like a reliable indicator of wind speed to me. There are probably other details that determine where debris gets piled up vs scoured away. It probably was EF5, but damage is already so complete at the high end of EF4 it’s hard to differentiate. Beyond no walls left standing its kind of fuzzy what else to look for. Weird stuff like picking pavement off the ground might not be apparent everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outflow Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 1 hour ago, andyhb said: DOW finding winds well in excess of the EF5 threshold 44 m AGL while the tornado was in Greenfield. Reading the abovd The Elie tornado comes to mind as a small in size but with upper end strength. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 22 minutes ago, outflow said: Reading the abovd The Elie tornado comes to mind as a small in size but with upper end strength. The pressure gradient must have been insane for such a narrow tornado to have winds 200mph just 140 feet off the ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 KCRG-TV9 reports at least 4 fatalities in Greenfield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoboy645 Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Well last night's QLCS was a long night here. We got the initial tor-warned round through at about 8, that line didn't do too much damage. However, we got the straight-line winds from the SW from the 2nd round, and that did some damage around here. There are probably a few dozen fallen or snapped trees around the area from the wind, with some areas losing power as a result. If I had to guess we probably got 70+ winds, if not 80+ in the most exposed areas. Notably with the wind coming out of the SW, areas that would be relatively protected from our typical NWerly squall lines experienced the full brunt. Coupled with weakening from last years drought and EAB, no wonder we lost so many trees. Easily the most wind damage we have had here in almost a decade. The last time being the downburst on 7/13/15. After that round came through, some redevelopment occured and we had about 4-5 mins of quarter-sized hail. And while all of this was going on, we got at least 2" of rain. Combined with the rain from the MCV on Monday, some areas to the north of me have had 4-5" within the last two days. The Crawfish is up to bankfull now for the first time in at least a year if not longer. Been a very busy last two days here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 15 hours ago, SchaumburgStormer said: Good call with @Chicago Storm for LOT. Straight garbage. Should have watered the garden tonight… 15 hours ago, cyclone77 said: Haha yeah I was out watering earlier when it was still thundering. Probably looked crazy at the time but I knew we weren't gonna get squat at that point. Most of the guidance had storms decaying well east of the MS river, but in reality they started shitting the bed way before that while still in east Iowa. Yea, wasn't too much of a surprise in the end. ...But things did fade a bit faster than even thought going into it. The combination of residual capping, lowering instability, and mixed out DP's really did it in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 Rotation track for the Greenwood supercell 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted May 22 Share Posted May 22 huge concentration of 75mph+ measured wind reports in Iowa/Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheeselandSkies Posted May 22 Author Share Posted May 22 The biggest excitement from my chase yesterday (didn't go far enough southwest to catch the tornadoes; thought storms would continue to produce further east at least most of the way across Iowa, SPC apparently did too; ended up on the storm which was tornado-warned near Corydon but it didn't look too impressive and the warning was dropped shortly after it got away from me over Eddyville) was when I was almost home. Multiple roads blocked/obstructed by downed power lines, trees (including a broken tree a block from my apartment building), and road construction signs/cones/barricades blown over and scattered in the travel lanes. Some neighborhoods were pitch-black with streetlights and even traffic lights out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Some FEMA CAP images showing incredible damage from the Greenfield tornado both in and southwest of town: http://fema-cap-imagery.s3-website-us-east-1.amazonaws.com/Images/CAP_-_Spring_Storms_2024/Source/24-1-5261/Sortie_7_AerialOblique/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 IMO a number of those photos show at minimum high end EF4 damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
largetornado Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 Update to my last post…it was not a storm chaser killed near Corning. Death toll appears to be 4 in greenfield and 1 north of corning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 https://x.com/NWSDesMoines/status/1793748408576114777 Greenfield tornado rated EF4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidwestChaser Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 33 minutes ago, mob1 said: https://x.com/NWSDesMoines/status/1793748408576114777 Greenfield tornado rated EF4 Anyone surprised? They seem to be allergic to EF-5 ratings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zinski1990 Posted May 23 Share Posted May 23 We're never getting an ef5 again are we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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