Extended summer stormlover74 future snow hole banter thread 23

[donsutherland1]

7 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

wow thanks Don, these are absolutely stunning!

I wonder what the Cheshire Cat looks like :-)

The Cheshire Cat is a costumed character who walks around the Garden during parts of the day. I have not yet run into it.

[JTA66]

On 5/21/2024 at 9:42 AM, donsutherland1 said:

Some are now trying to recast Winter 2023-2024 as "one of the coldest on record" in the Northeastern U.S. In fact, Winter 2023-2024 edged out Winter 2001-2002 as the warmest on record in the Northeast. It was also among the least snowy ones on record. As a result, Boston reached 816 consecutive days without 4" daily snowfall today (old record: 711 days).

My historically low heating oil bill this past winter would disagree with the above statement.

[LibertyBell]

3 hours ago, Volcanic Winter said:

As best I understand it was due to engineering reasons, they determined the old F rating wind speeds were exaggerated for the damage they indicated (IE lesser winds produced equivalent damage). Hence they changed to the Enhanced Fujita. 
 

However I heard somewhere after the April 2011 super outbreak they began changing the criteria / damage thresholds that would allow a tornado to be classified as an EF5, and I heard essentially that the requirements are so strict as to be nearly impossible. It had lots of engineering arguments that are above me, but I thought it was interesting. They were suggesting we wouldn’t be seeing many EF5’s in the future with this new method solely for giving out an EF5 rating. Again, don’t know how ultimately valid this is but it was compellingly presented. I’ll look for the page I saw this on and link it if I can come across it. Has a lot of analysis of the mid to late 2010’s EF4’s that maybe could’ve been EF5 strength. 

I would like to get away from an engineering based scale and back to a scientific meteorological based one.  When do you think we will be able to get accurate wind speeds based on radar so we don't need a damage based scale and have one based on actual wind speeds like we have with hurricanes?

 

[JBG]

On 5/19/2024 at 7:05 AM, LibertyBell said:

I didn't know it covered 250 acres and they have an Alice in Wonderland themed giant topiary going on there? I am partial to the giant March Hare topiary!

Question-- why is it called New York Botanical Garden when it's in The Bronx? Why not call it The Bronx Botanical Garden? We have one in Brooklyn and it's called The Brooklyn Botanical Garden.

 

Bronx is very much in New York City. Most of the Bronx and all of Manhattan were in the original, pre-December 31, 1897 NYC; Queens (a collection of villages), Brooklyn (in its own right the second or third largest US City at the time) and Staten Island (a collection of villages) were added effective January 1, 1898, the birthday of NYC as we know it.

[LibertyBell]

21 minutes ago, JBG said:

Bronx is very much in New York City. Most of the Bronx and all of Manhattan were in the original, pre-December 31, 1897 NYC; Queens (a collection of villages), Brooklyn (in its own right the second or third largest US City at the time) and Staten Island (a collection of villages) were added effective January 1, 1898, the birthday of NYC as we know it.

The Brooklyn Dodgers predate that 1/1/1898 date don't they JBG?

 

[JBG]

59 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

The Brooklyn Dodgers predate that 1/1/1898 date don't they JBG?

 

I actually never knew that. They were originally the Brooklyn Atlantics. Everything changed with the creation of the subway system, which fueled the amalgamation of modern NYC.

[Stormlover74]

17 hours ago, Volcanic Winter said:

Iowa tornado from today:

This is one of the most impressive multi-vortex structures I've ever seen since El Reno.

Classified an EF-3

[LibertyBell]

High quantities of highly toxic carcinogen 1,4-Dioxane has been found in the Town of Hempstead in all 9 water treatment plants and the Town is asking for $55 million dollars from the federal government to build a new water treatment plant (the other ones were built in 1932!) to clean the water of this toxic chemical that causes kidney and liver cancers with hydrogen peroxide.  If it doesn't get the money our taxes will be going up (this is well worth it.)

 

 

[forkyfork]

say a prayer for this flood victim

 

[rclab]

2 hours ago, forkyfork said:

say a prayer for this flood victim

For a moment I thought it was your avatar. As always …..

[Volcanic Winter]

On 5/22/2024 at 4:40 PM, Stormlover74 said:

Classified an EF-3

Bumped to an EF4. They usually revise several times as the damage survey continues. Crazy storm regardless of rating.

[forkyfork]

 

[forkyfork]

if you paste and it doesn't embed cut the link from the post and paste as plain text again 

[Stormlover74]

Yeah I'm not doing that

[LibertyBell]

1 hour ago, Stormlover74 said:

Yeah I'm not doing that

I think copying and pasting the text inside the tweet is easier.

 

[donsutherland1]

Additional photos from the New York Botanical Garden:

 

[Rjay]

On 5/22/2024 at 4:40 PM, Stormlover74 said:

Classified an EF-3

ef4

[LibertyBell]

On 5/25/2024 at 3:35 PM, donsutherland1 said:

Additional photos from the New York Botanical Garden:

 

wow really nice-- I cant wait until we get back to this weather tomorrow!

[forkyfork]

can we get some of the fun parts of climate change? look at what happened in texas. instead we just get 50s all winter

[Stormlover74]

We wouldn't have power for 2 weeks 

[Dark Star]

13 hours ago, forkyfork said:

can we get some of the fun parts of climate change? look at what just happened in texas. instead we just get 50s all winter

Coastal flooding will be our "treat", but I'll be long gone beneath the ground by then...

[FPizz]

14 hours ago, Stormlover74 said:

We wouldn't have power for 2 weeks 

I lost power like 6x this past week for no reason.  I guess 87 degrees was the electric grid tipping point

[MJO812]

[Juliancolton]

Fireflies are out and about in my area despite the relatively cool evenings

https://x.com/juliancd38/status/1796351783415206290?t=qzelMBMpIe3D4RFEsxnTNw&s=19

 

[bluewave]

On 5/25/2024 at 4:03 PM, Rjay said:

ef4

How do we get the twitter X links to fully display rather than just show a link? I am seeing posts around the forum with it both ways. It just used to automatically embed before a few weeks ago. 

[Stormlover74]

15 minutes ago, bluewave said:

How do we get the twitter X links to fully display rather than just show a link? I am seeing posts around the forum with it both ways. It just used to automatically embed before a few weeks ago. 

I tried changing it to twitter.com but that didn't work and I don't know how to paste as plain text on my phone per forkys suggestion 

[bluewave]

27 minutes ago, Stormlover74 said:

I tried changing it to twitter.com but that didn't work and I don't know how to paste as plain text on my phone per forkys suggestion 

Yeah, I haven’t been able to get it to work. But I see that other posters have found a way since there are embedded posts in the last few days showing up in the various threads.

[uofmiami]

Test

 

 

[uofmiami]

3 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Yeah, I haven’t been able to get it to work. But I see that other posters have found a way since there are embedded posts in the last few days showing up in the various threads.

On a pc I just clicked the tweet itself and once loaded copied the twitter.com address from browser.  It automatically embedded when pasted into the forum reply box.

[bluewave]

8 minutes ago, uofmiami said:

On a pc I just clicked the tweet itself and once loaded copied the twitter.com address from browser.  It automatically embedded when pasted into the forum reply box.

When I do the same thing it comes out as a link.

https://x.com/wxjerdman/status/1796132632549339572