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The last 6 days of January are averaging       40degs.(36/45) or +7.

Month to date is       43.1[+9.3].          January should end at       42.5[+8.8]  Second Place

Reached 54 here yesterday at midnight.

Today:   Slowly falling T's to 42 by sunset, wind w.-breezy, variable clouds, 36 tomorrow AM.

47*(99%RH) here at 6am.       44* at 8am.      42* at Noon.

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3 hours ago, LibertyBell said:

actually we dont need the rain and definitely dont want it.

I remember the good old days when we averaged less than 40 inches of rain a year hopefully we're returning to that with drier springs and summers.

 

Going back 365 days we're still a few inches below normal actually.

Also with warmer waters we will likely see more, not less rain moving forward. Summer 2022 was an anomaly imo

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15 minutes ago, Brian5671 said:

Looks like a small window of opportunity later next week-hopefully we can get something.  Otherwise the futility record might make a run at March and challenge 97-98

Totally agree. We have three shots in February (1st, 3rd and 6th). If we don’t get it then we can seriously start talking about a snowless winter. 

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This winter is more like 97/98 than I thought.

The NE forum corrected me with the fact that my area received over 4 inches early December 1997 in addition to the March storm.

Just like that year, we had the early December storm this winter which provided the same areas with a light snowfall.

In both storms NYC was shut out.

Obviously there are nuances that are different, but from a snowfall perspective it's amazing.

 

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8 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

This winter is more like 97/98 than I thought.

The NE forum corrected me with the fact that my area received over 4 inches early December 1997 in addition to the March storm.

Just like that year, we had the early December storm this winter which provided the same areas with a light snowfall.

In both storms NYC was shut out.

Obviously there are nuances that are different, but from a snowfall perspective it's amazing.

 

Never thought we'd see a warmer winter than that one but here we are 

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1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

Going back 365 days we're still a few inches below normal actually.

Also with warmer waters we will likely see more, not less rain moving forward. Summer 2022 was an anomaly imo

It's not all about warmer waters though, air circulation moves west to east so if we can get a nice downsloping westerly flow it will overpower whatever the Atlantic is doing.

 

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22 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

This winter is more like 97/98 than I thought.

The NE forum corrected me with the fact that my area received over 4 inches early December 1997 in addition to the March storm.

Just like that year, we had the early December storm this winter which provided the same areas with a light snowfall.

In both storms NYC was shut out.

Obviously there are nuances that are different, but from a snowfall perspective it's amazing.

 

Yeah NYC has more of a midatlantic climate,  NE is like another world.

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1 minute ago, LibertyBell said:

Yeah NYC has more of a midatlantic climate,  NE is like another world.

SNE is becoming more like NYC while we're becoming more like Virginia

3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said:

It's not all about warmer waters though, air circulation moves west to east so if we can get a nice downsloping westerly flow it will overpower whatever the Atlantic is doing.

 

It does matter in the summer where our rainfall is primarily convective driven.

Warmer waters means more instability, more vapor in the air, more tropical threats. 

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1 minute ago, SnoSki14 said:

SNE is becoming more like NYC while we're becoming more like Virginia

It does matter in the summer where our rainfall is primarily convective driven.

Warmer waters means more instability, more vapor in the air, more tropical threats. 

Thats true but mostly for NJ and away from the ocean (ironically enough), here on the south shore we don't see much convection (very much like the Florida beaches.)

 

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2 minutes ago, EastonSN+ said:

Yeah I am shocked about how warm 1932/1933 were as well. In my warped mind I pictured pre 1950s as an Arctic tundra with feet of snow from November through April :)

That was 1920s and prior.

Maybe 1910s and prior when NYC averaged 35 inches of snow a year and that was without accounting for compaction.

 

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3 hours ago, weatherpruf said:

I doubt it really matters. I'm ready for spring. Enough of this. Of course, we are stuck with it a few more weeks. Weeks, that's all, then we won't have to think about it until next Dec. 

It's like rooting for a terrible sports team that has no shot of making the playoffs and the season is only half over.  Just end it and get to free agency and the draft.

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1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said:

Going back 365 days we're still a few inches below normal actually.

Also with warmer waters we will likely see more, not less rain moving forward. Summer 2022 was an anomaly imo

Wow.  Thought for sure we'd be caught up on the rain deficit after the last few months.  We've had several doozies where it was just raining buckets.  

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