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12 hours ago, BxEngine said:

Which weather god do i have to pretend to pray to to ensure sunny days in myrtle beach at the end of next week?

Good morning BxE. I suggest trying WW007’s newest warm season creation ‘The sweeper’. As always ….

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12 hours ago, BxEngine said:

Which weather god do i have to pretend to pray to to ensure sunny days in myrtle beach at the end of next week?

 

11 hours ago, Rjay said:

Lol @ going to SC on purpose.  Same goes for @mappy

 

3 hours ago, BxEngine said:

Some of us leave the tri state area occasionally ya hermit. 
 

and its one of the best golf destinations in the world.  

 

2 hours ago, mappy said:

haters gonna hate

The time may be right for a ‘Moderators Only can post’ banter thread with the rest of us as ‘read only’. That would probably result in the need for creation of a banter response to the ‘Moderators Post Only’ thread. I apologize my one morning daily cup of penance hasn’t hit home yet. As always ….

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15 hours ago, forkyfork said:

average temperatures in late september! so special <3 

it's way better than cold.  I want it to stay in the 70s through the end of October.  early cold weather sucks it's not good for anything

sunny and 70s and low humidity during the day and 50s at night with clear skies is the best possible weather

 

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It would be great if the NYC ASOS in Central Park got this type of attention to its accuracy.

PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE ALBANY NY
752 AM EDT THU SEP 30 2021

...PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT...

...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE REPLACEMENT OF THERMOMETER AT
ALBANY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RECONDITIONING CENTER (NWSRC) REPLACED
THE AUTOMATED SURFACE OBSERVING SYSTEM THERMOMETER AND ASSOCIATED
ELECTRONICS AT THE ALBANY INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT YESTERDAY, 
SEPTEMBER 29, 2021 AT 9:30 AM. THE THERMOMETER WAS REPLACED WITH A
MODIFIED SENSOR AND CALIBRATED WITH A MODIFIED ALIGNMENT 
PROCEDURE.

A REFERENCE THERMOMETER, RUNNING SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE ASOS THERMOMETER,
HAS COLLECTED DATA FOR COMPARISON SINCE JUNE. THE PREVIOUS 
THERMOMETERS INSTALLED SINCE JULY 17, 2020 LIKELY HAD A COLD BIAS 
(THERMOMETER RECORDS A COLDER TEMPERATURE THAN THE ACTUAL 
TEMPERATURE).

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WILL CONTINUE THE INVESTIGATION ON THE
COLD BIAS IN THE ALBANY TEMPERATURE RECORD FOR THE PERIOD JULY 
17, 2020 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 29, 2021. 

PLEASE CONTACT SUSAN BUCHANAN, DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS, NATIONAL
WEATHER SERVICE AT 301-427-9000 FOR ADDITIONAL INFORMATION.

$$

 

Central Park Weather: Vegetative Overgrowth Affecting Weather Readings - WABC-TV

(New York-WABC, August 22, 2003) - Forecasting the weather is not easy.
Government equipment can often be blamed for giving faulty weather
information. As Bill Evans explains, a big culprit may be some of the
equipment buried in Central Park.

Rainfall, snowfall, and the temperature are all vital information
recorded 24 hours a day at the weather station located in the heart of
Central Park.

But meteorologists like Michael Schlacter have serious concerns about the
accuracy of the stations data. It sits amid overgrown vegetation and he
says thats the problem. The leaves can trigger snow gauges and trees can
warp rain and wind measurements. On this hot day, a temperature gauge is
in the shade instead of direct sunlight.

Michael Schlacter, Weather 2000: "Its kind of like driving a car
without a speedometer, odometer, and gas gauge. You are running with
false information."

The weather instruments at Belvedere Castle have long adorned the top.
There used to be a government meteorologist here in the city to keep an
eye on them. But now the nearest meteorologist is 60 miles that way.

But National Weather Service meteorologists say they knew the weather
readings in the park would never be as keenly accurate as the ones at
the airports where guidelines prevent foliage from being within 100 feet
of the station.

Schlacter: "We knew that at times we would have flaky readings, that
leaves would fall in gauges, that we would have problems with
visibility sensors."

[NWS Meteorologist-in-Charge Michael] Wyllie says the weather station is
there because it was historically significant to maintain its presence
in the park.

He says theres been a lot of growth because of the wet spring at so much
in fact that temperatures have routinely been recorded lower in the park
than at the airports.

Wyllie: "We are actually having a micro climate system there because of
the vegetation."

Imperfect perhaps but nonetheless the system provides the official record
of weather for the country's largest city. And Michael Schlacter says
its a city that deserves better.

Schlacter: "I think New Yorkers deserve a lot better, and I think they
deserve the best weather station money can buy."


Copyright 2003 ABC Inc., WABC-TV Inc.
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4 hours ago, Rjay said:

It's amazing we're still arguing over Newark's temps.   All the evidence is there and yet the same people ignore it and say it's wrong.  

People should just use their local airports and just forget about other locations that have a different climate.  For me, it's JFK.  For you it's ISP.  For Tony it's EWR.  Why do people have to argue about temps about regions in microclimates outside their own?

 

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1 hour ago, LibertyBell said:

People should just use their local airports and just forget about other locations that have a different climate.  For me, it's JFK.  For you it's ISP.  For Tony it's EWR.  Why do people have to argue about temps about regions in microclimates outside their own?

 

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Under bright sunshine amidst some wispy high clouds, temperatures rose into the 70s today. Tomorrow will be even warmer. Temperatures will top out in the upper 70s and lower 80s across much of the region.

Newark's record-breaking streak with high temperatures of 70° or above increased to 125 consecutive days. The previous record was 119 days, which was set in 2008. Since Newark first recorded 90 or more such days back in 1900, the record has increased by no more than 7 days over the prior mark. That margin could be surpassed this year.

The warm regime will continue through much of next week. There is a chance of a significant rain event late in the week. Overall, the Middle Atlantic and southern New England areas appear to be in line with a warmer to much warmer than normal October (a general 2°-4° above normal). New York City could have an October mean temperature of 60° or above.

Out West, Bismarck is in line for one of its 5 warmest opening weeks in October. During that time, Bismarck could challenge or break its record of 4 consecutive 80° high temperatures in October. The record was set during October 3-6, 1879 and tied during October 10-13, 1934.

Fall 2021 will likely be wetter to much wetter than normal in the northern Middle Atlantic region. Since 1869, there have been 9 August cases where New York City picked up 20.00" or more rainfall during the summer. Two thirds of those cases (and 4/5 of those with summer mean temperatures of 73.0° or above) had 17.00" or more fall precipitation in New York City. 2011 is probably the closest match in terms of precipitation and a nearly identical summer mean temperature. Mean fall precipitation for those 9 cases was 14.86". The median was 17.35". The 1991-2020 normal value is 12.27".

Following very wet July-September periods, winter (December-February) precipitation has typically been near or below normal. The most recent exception was winter 2018-19.

The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +0.2°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was -0.3°C for the week centered around September 22. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +0.05°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged -0.43°C. Neutral ENSO conditions will likely yield to La Niña conditions this month.

The SOI was +13.54 today.

The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) figure was -0.584 today.

On September 30 the MJO was in Phase 4 at an amplitude of  1.639 (RMM). The September 29-adjusted amplitude was 1.414 (RMM).

 

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On 9/30/2021 at 3:10 AM, LibertyBell said:

it's way better than cold.  I want it to stay in the 70s through the end of October.  early cold weather sucks it's not good for anything

sunny and 70s and low humidity during the day and 50s at night with clear skies is the best possible weather

 

There have been October, and a ton of early November snowstorms over the years. Early cold isn't always a waste.

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44 minutes ago, RippleEffect said:

On average when is the first day that it snows in NYC? Even if it’s a trace? Sorry I was just wondering and yes I may be a :weenie:

No, that's a good question. What about, say, the Mid Hudson. Like Newburgh to Poughkeepsie/Kingston?

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31 minutes ago, White Gorilla said:

What are your thoughts about some of these winter forecasts from AccuWeather and Almanac calling for a cold and snowy winter around here?  I always read these with a lot of skepticism. 

Until it happens ill take the under on any cold and snowy winter forecasts until yellowstone blows. 

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