November 2020 Discussion

[HimoorWx]

Our oaks are stubborn, but at least the leaves finally turned brown last week. Always a race to sneak if they come down before the final town pickup in December.

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[dendrite]

CAR is already 72F...jesus H.

[dendrite]

1 minute ago, dendrite said:

CAR is already 72F...jesus H.

The all-time November record was broke there last year with 68F on 11/1/2018. That was broken yesterday with 69F. The 72F+ will shatter that.

Before today, their latest 72F+ on record was 75F on 10/28/1947 and their latest 70F was 10/30/1989. So this is pretty exceptional.

[dryslot]

62/48.

[HIPPYVALLEY]

7 minutes ago, dryslot said:

62/48.

You need to head north for the warmth!

62/52 here. 

[dryslot]

1 minute ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

You need to head north for the warmth!

62/52 here. 

I'm all set.

[PhineasC]

68 with cool breezes. Feels nice. 

[HIPPYVALLEY]

7 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

68 with cool breezes. Feels nice. 

Your wife must think NNE is great in November! Once you get those pesky October snows out-of-the-way it’s smooth sailing.

[Cold Miser]

1 hour ago, HimoorWx said:

Our oaks are stubborn, but at least the leaves finally turned brown last week. Always a race to sneak if they come down before the final town pickup in December.

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All that is left are the oaks, and a few stray maple leaves near me.  Just frigging drop already.

 

[powderfreak]

40 minutes ago, dendrite said:

The all-time November record was broke there last year with 68F on 11/1/2018. That was broken yesterday with 69F. The 72F+ will shatter that.

Before today, their latest 72F+ on record was 75F on 10/28/1947 and their latest 70F was 10/30/1989. So this is pretty exceptional.

Yikes, also impressive.

[radarman]

my goodness is it ever pleasant out there.  2020 making amends in the last 2 weeks.

[powderfreak]

71F now at MVL off the low of 32F.

Almost a 40 degree diurnal swing prior to noon.

[powderfreak]

Looks like the November record for Mansfield is 63F set in both 2019 and 1958.

We've now set 4 straight daily maximums and it's currently 60F up there, so we'll see if we can beat 63F.

[Typhoon Tip]

I don't want winter at all.  It has nothing to do with this warm spell  - which I believe despite all eye-rolling is a partial manifestation of global warming.  But ...this exotic warmth has me thinking...

Same exact delivery 100 years ago is around 70 ... not mid to upper 70s... it is  impossible to prove, yet is true, and so goes the insidious nature of GW. 

The problem is "synergistic" is nature - which is a result/outcome that is "more than the sum of the individual parts"  ...  In modern climate/changing therein... the "synergy" moments are warmer than they are 100 years ago... then, they are gone. Their causality with them... poof.  When the rest states may only be mere decimals apart. The system does not appear capable of producing them with regularity, because the "more" in the more than the sum of their parts, is an emergence - so... they are dismissed out of hand as flukes. 

Wrong -   

We've only gained 1 F since 1920 ( say...). Synergy means that heat waves may be 5 F warmer... and Indian Summers are more likely to reach exotic anomalies in scalar and temporal ranges.  That's how it works... 

See, I am starting to believe that the old mantra of "you can't blame a heat wave on global warming" is actually an equivocation- a lie...

It's a lie pushed across by for two root reasons:   

either immorally to evade having to admit to GW...

OR,

those that thought they were actually being scientifically rational .. are missing that synergy bombs are going off because of it. 

Because either root ignores, or fails to examine "synergistic behavior" ... as a specific threat emergence which is something that only exist ephemerally and circumstantially, then disappears once the forces contributing disperse...   

I don't think the synergies of 1920, are as likely to emerge what we are dealing with now. 

 

[Damage In Tolland]

Torch!!

[PhineasC]

41 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said:

Your wife must think NNE is great in November! Once you get those pesky October snows out-of-the-way it’s smooth sailing.

LOL yeah definitely some of that vibe up here right now. Our neighbors keep saying ominous things about the winter whenever we see them, however. I think they are looking forward to watching us flatlanders struggle mightily this winter. 

[dendrite]

10 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

LOL yeah definitely some of that vibe up here right now. Our neighbors keep saying ominous things about the winter whenever we see them, however. I think they are looking forward to watching us flatlanders struggle mightily this winter. 

BML is currently 70F and they've only recorded 70+ after this date once in their short history of the ASOS going back to 1996. That was a 72F on 11/11/2002. The COOP goes back to 1886 and has a few more 70s sprinkled in through the month. But yeah, this is pretty rare. The past 2 Novies were really cold.

Winters are very long and frigid so a little lingering warmth into late fall isn't exactly a bad thing. I know you probably want the kitchen sink thrown at you in your first winter though.

[Baroclinic Zone]

This stretch of warmth has to be almost unprecedented for November.  6-7 days of 70F.

[PhineasC]

19 minutes ago, dendrite said:

BML is currently 70F and they've only recorded 70+ after this date once in their short history of the ASOS going back to 1996. That was a 72F on 11/11/2002. The COOP goes back to 1886 and has a few more 70s sprinkled in through the month. But yeah, this is pretty rare. The past 2 Novies were really cold.

Winters are very long and frigid so a little lingering warmth into late fall isn't exactly a bad thing. I know you probably want the kitchen sink thrown at you in your first winter though.

The last few days were nice to wrap up a few loose ends outdoors for sure, but we are ready for the serious cold and snow at this point. Hope the worm turns here soon. Get back to last Tuesday’s kind of feel. 

[CoastalWx]

3 hours ago, Damage In Tolland said:

This was in Se Mass by Scoots 

Trillium isn’t really SE MA. 

[Typhoon Tip]

18 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

This stretch of warmth has to be almost unprecedented for November.  6-7 days of 70 75-79F.

Course ... not sure if y'all s-breezed down there.  At least out here in the 300 ' level beneath the Worcester Hills of Metro west and 495 ... we've challenged May for a week.

[powderfreak]

39 minutes ago, dendrite said:

BML is currently 70F and they've only recorded 70+ after this date once in their short history of the ASOS going back to 1996. That was a 72F on 11/11/2002. The COOP goes back to 1886 and has a few more 70s sprinkled in through the month. But yeah, this is pretty rare. The past 2 Novies were really cold.

Winters are very long and frigid so a little lingering warmth into late fall isn't exactly a bad thing. I know you probably want the kitchen sink thrown at you in your first winter though.

Yeah it’s a long winter.  2018 even pushed it for me... snow cover solid from like early Nov till April in the yard.

This is pretty nice, but yeah can also see Phin wanting a 7-month 220” cry for mamma winter to get fully welcomed in first winter.

[powderfreak]

Holy shit.

75F at MVL now.

61F at MMNV1 (two shy of the Nov record).

[HoarfrostHubb]

4 hours ago, Whineminster said:

Don't tell that to @HoarfrostHubb.  His are all gone somehow, local cold spot. 

They have been gone for a week... maybe I have a different species?

Only ornamental trees near me have many leaves

[dendrite]

BML and CAR 74F

[dendrite]

MHT 77
ASH 76
CON 75
1P1 75

BED 78
IZG 77
CAR 75

[dendrite]

We dandelion. 

[Dr. Dews]

77.1, 77.9 hi

[Bostonseminole]

recent highs here

10/10 79

10/9 75

10/8 77

10/7 81 

10/6 76

10/5 73

Impressive, at least it has been cold in the AM's  38 this AM and 35 yesterday

[PhineasC]

71 here. Too hot.