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1 minute ago, StormfanaticInd said:

If I was the governor of Michigan I would just step down. She is in a no win situation 

None of the other governors stepped down when they made alleged missteps with their handling of the virus. I don't think we should hold Whitmer to such a standard either. 

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1 minute ago, Powerball said:

None of the other governors stepped down when they made alleged missteps with their handling of the virus. I don't think we should hold Whitmer to such a standard either. 

Her hands are tied. There is literally nothing else she can do

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4 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Her hands are tied. There is literally nothing else she can do

I know. Stuck between a rock and a hard place.

But even if she did step down, I don't think her successor could do anything different to change the situation.

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19 minutes ago, Powerball said:

Yes.

Like I said, I didn't call anyone silly, and I don't appreciate you claiming that I did when it's not true.

Alot of people in here like to claim others said stuff...it's a thing 

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1 minute ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Situation is starting to become dire. Smh Haven't had to say that word in a while. Not good

There's still not a lot of explanations that make sense for what's going on there... I know people have said variants are responsible but aren't the variants everywhere now?

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8 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

Hopefully the people in Michigan are wearing 3-4+ masks to stop this spread

Ohio, ladies and gentleman.

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6 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

You are something else. Completely heartless man

It's common sense that more than 1 protects more right?   Maybe there should be a 4 mask mandate!

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10 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

You are something else. Completely heartless man

Yeah. Being kind and assuming they're joking, it's definitely in poor taste and uncalled for.

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14 minutes ago, schoeppeya said:

There's still not a lot of explanations that make sense for what's going on there... I know people have said variants are responsible but aren't the variants everywhere now?

Its possible there is a new variant in Michigan we don't know about 

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11 minutes ago, Powerball said:

Yeah. Being kind and assuming they're joking, it's definitely in poor taste and uncalled for.

If more masks are advised to protect against variants, why is this uncalled for?   Sure, I disagree with it, but that's besides the point. 

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18 hours ago, nwohweather said:


Wrong. Companies are moving along with their people en masse down to the South. How do I know this? Because I’m one of those people lol and so are many of my friends. The sun belt migration is on full bore here.

Talent wants to live in cool places with nice weather, it’s why Nashville, Charlotte, Charleston, Atlanta, Birmingham, Tampa, Austin, Dallas are absolutely exploding. Then factor in that these companies are moving factories here to avoid unions and opening up downtown offices for their white collar personnel in a more business tax friendly climate. Cap that off with a more friendly weather climate and you’ve got a boomtown.

Sorry about the OT rant, feel free to delete Hoosier

it's mostly because real estate is cheaper down there, not because they're "cool places with nice weather".  i know many people who moved to atlanta, dallas and charlotte after living in the northeast cities or chicago.   the only reason was to buy a single family house without spending two million dollars.  otherwise they find the vibe down there pretty boring in comparison.

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9 hours ago, TimB84 said:

Wouldn’t it be ironic if a bunch of businesses moved to Florida and Texas for things conservatives like, such as low taxes and warm climates, then brought in a bunch of young, educated, liberal talent and flipped 67 electoral votes in the process?

that already happened in georgia and arizona.  it's going to happen to nc shortly.  and it'll probably happen to texas in ten years.  people's political leanings these days are correlated to their age (generation) and education levels.

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yes, you can get covid after getting vaccinated.  so if 100 million have been vaccinated and its 95% effective, we should expect 5 million of those people to still get covid.  i think the idea is that the vaccines keep things manageable.

variants are going to be problematic for a few years, because parts of the world probably won't get fully vaccinated until later in 2022, and who knows what new variants will come from places with uncontrolled spread.

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Another new study that shows how important health is to Covid risk. We've already known that people that have risk factors (like obesity and type 2 diabetes) are at greater risk of developing severe Covid and being hospitalized if they catch the virus, but this study shows that they are also at greater risk of just catching the virus to begin with. They looked at a large group of people and compared the health of people that tested positive and tested negative. People that tested positive were more likely to have obesity and type 2 diabetes, while people that tested negative were more likely to be normal body weight and have high levels of HDL cholesterol (the good cholesterol). So this is very important information. Getting yourself very healthy through diet and exercise not only reduces risk of severe Covid but also reduces risk of catching the virus. The cholesterol part of it is interesting. One thing we know is exercise greatly increases levels of the good HDL cholesterol. This study is just another example of how exercise is protective against Covid. Of course getting vaccinated is the best protection, but for people that are not vaccinated it's very important to get into better shape if you want to reduce Covid risk.  Anyway here is the article...

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04-factors-linked-covid-infection.html

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2 hours ago, schoeppeya said:

There's still not a lot of explanations that make sense for what's going on there... I know people have said variants are responsible but aren't the variants everywhere now?

They may have a higher amount of variant spread than other states, and the variants do seem to be more contagious.  There's also speculation that there are greater numbers of people there who hadn't been exposed to covid (MI cases per million are on the lower end, and their testing rates have not been super low compared to other states).  

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Per worldometers, Michigan is 41 in cases per million and 22 in tests per million, so it's not like they have run an unusually low amount of tests there.

Sorted by cases per million:

 

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Sorted by tests per million:

 

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2 hours ago, fujiwara79 said:

that already happened in georgia and arizona.  it's going to happen to nc shortly.  and it'll probably happen to texas in ten years.  people's political leanings these days are correlated to their age (generation) and education levels.

That will still be countered with gerrymandering and laws (that would have been unconstitutional with any Supreme Court but the current one) designed to make sure fewer people vote. Georgia is writing the playbook that Texas, Florida, and NC will use.

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1 minute ago, dta1984 said:

People wonder why there's so much mistrust, what a clown. 

It’s really hard to take an argument, or the person presenting it, seriously when one refers to a guy with an MD from an Ivy League university as a “clown.”

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7 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

That will still be countered with gerrymandering and laws (that would have been unconstitutional with any Supreme Court but the current one) designed to make sure fewer people vote. Georgia is writing the playbook that Texas, Florida, and NC will use.

There’s plenty of states with stricter voting laws than Georgia (including democratic ones).

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9 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

People wonder why there's so much mistrust, what a clown. 

He changes his mind more than I change my pants

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6 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

It’s really hard to take an argument, or the person presenting it, seriously when one refers to a guy with an MD from an Ivy League university as a “clown.”

I don’t think he’s a clown. But I do think he’s on a path to not finishing the pandemic in a favorable light. 

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6 minutes ago, TimB84 said:

It’s really hard to take an argument, or the person presenting it, seriously when one refers to a guy with an MD from an Ivy League university as a “clown.”

So he has to be right since he graduated from an Ivy league school?

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2 minutes ago, dta1984 said:

People wonder why there's so much mistrust, what a clown. 

you really have to turn off cable news and get away from the outrage machine.  mistrust is perpetuated by those outlets and you are part of the ecosystem by watching it.  turn it off.

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