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I frequently wear 2... a disposable and a cloth.  If I'm going to be quickly in and out of some place then I usually just wear one.

I’ve been double masking for awhile.


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Anything is possible but I'd be surprised if the mask mandates are gone everywhere by May.  I think a lot more states could have them pulled back by then though (we already see that in North Dakota).  Some governors will probably be slower to end them.  Also have to keep in mind that the big box stores, etc. have their own mask rules, so there could be some inconsistencies even as the governors pull back.
The sociological aspect of all this will be fascinating to watch.  Once the mandates end, will some people choose to continue to wear one?  Also, if cases start to rise again after the mask mandates end, will there be a quick reaction by governors to do another mask mandate or will they ride it out?

Honestly I might continue to wear masks during peak virus seasons. I haven’t had a cold yet this year which is really nice. Nothing sucks worse than blowing snot out for weeks on end in winter.


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Another day with 4k+ deaths... will be near 200k cases as well... hoping that this is the plateau and things begin a decline.

 

FWIW, parts of IL are being relaxed a bit.

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7 minutes ago, RyanDe680 said:

Another day with 4k+ deaths... will be near 200k cases as well... hoping that this is the plateau and things begin a decline.

 

FWIW, parts of IL are being relaxed a bit.

Probably a slow decline for now since the holidays are over but any lag post Monday holiday might make the rest of the week worse. Deaths are a lagging indicator unfortunately so probably a couple weeks before this starts to really drop. Hopefully new cases and hospitalizations remain on an improving trend and vaccinations can finally start making a real difference. 

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On 1/19/2021 at 3:46 PM, Angrysummons said:

More like chatter in Ohio/Dewine. Cases are coming down and vaccinations will boom February/March. I think people are underestimating the Admin change in terms of production and distribution. There is already some signs of progress from the doses given out. My guess 50% of all citizenry will have it by May destroying transmission(along with seasonality).

The 100 day goal is 100 million doses before May 1.  That's only 16% of the population.   It will take 500 million doses to get things under control.

We should have much more information about what's really happening sometime next week.

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5 hours ago, Speedskater said:

The 100 day goal is 100 million doses before May 1.  That's only 16% of the population.   It will take 500 million doses to get things under control.

We should have much more information about what's really happening sometime next week.

That is more than 16% of the population and 13 million already have had a dose.

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8 hours ago, Speedskater said:

The 100 day goal is 100 million doses before May 1.  That's only 16% of the population.   It will take 500 million doses to get things under control.

We should have much more information about what's really happening sometime next week.

Reasonable estimates say somewhere between 20-30% of people in the US have been infected by covid and probably the vast majority still have immunity to the virus. If we have an additional 50 million people vaccinated (~16%) that puts the total number of people immune to the virus at somewhere closer to 35-45% since there will be some overlap in infected/vaccinated.

When you factor in the additional 16% being the most vulnerable to serious infection/death then you can see that 100 million doses may be enough for things too be pretty close to under control.

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New poll on vaccine support shows more resistance in younger age groups and Republicans/people who voted for Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/less-40-percent-trump-voters-174038879.html

Said it before, but it would be beneficial to see now former pres Trump get vaccinated on camera.  Whether or not he has lingering immunity from being infected in October, it would send a message and may sway some people.

Say we get to 50, 60, 70% of America being vaccinated.  If there's pockets/regions of the country that are running behind the national average, then there's always going to be festering clusters of this thing.  Gotta hope the variants don't start getting around the vaccines as well.  I would think if the vaccines need to be tweaked in the future that they wouldn't have to go through all the trial phases again, but not sure.

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Am guessing the drop in cases is a combination a couple of things:

1. Coming off a time period where accelerated transmission was occurring due to holiday gatherings,

2. Partial herd immunity due to virus having infected a significant percentage of those unable/unwilling to avoid exposure risk, while those are able/willing to protect themselves remain harder for the virus to infect.

If you relax things too much before sufficient vaccination occurs, especially in winter, spikes in cases will probably occur. I Think once Spring comes infection rates are going to very low, assuming nothing like rapid spread of a variant with high rates of reinfection/vaccine bypass happens.

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6 hours ago, Hoosier said:

New poll on vaccine support shows more resistance in younger age groups and Republicans/people who voted for Trump.

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/less-40-percent-trump-voters-174038879.html

Said it before, but it would be beneficial to see now former pres Trump get vaccinated on camera.  Whether or not he has lingering immunity from being infected in October, it would send a message and may sway some people.

Say we get to 50, 60, 70% of America being vaccinated.  If there's pockets/regions of the country that are running behind the national average, then there's always going to be festering clusters of this thing.  Gotta hope the variants don't start getting around the vaccines as well.  I would think if the vaccines need to be tweaked in the future that they wouldn't have to go through all the trial phases again, but not sure.

Based on the data - if you have 50-60% vaccination then I would think that that plus immunity would put you close to 70%, assuming some of those vaccinated have also had covid.  

 

As the average continues to tick toward 1 million vaccinations per day, the 100 million in 100 days should be easily attainable, but then again that is less than 20% of the population.  

 

Now 100 million fully vaccinated in 100 days would be THE goal.

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Anything is possible but I'd be surprised if the mask mandates are gone everywhere by May.  I think a lot more states could have them pulled back by then though (we already see that in North Dakota).  Some governors will probably be slower to end them.  Also have to keep in mind that the big box stores, etc. have their own mask rules, so there could be some inconsistencies even as the governors pull back.
The sociological aspect of all this will be fascinating to watch.  Once the mandates end, will some people choose to continue to wear one?  Also, if cases start to rise again after the mask mandates end, will there be a quick reaction by governors to do another mask mandate or will they ride it out?

I’ve worn one since March and plan to until vaccinated.

I think we’re seeing as a society the side effects now if prolonged isolation. Deaths are off the charts and no one seems to care. Hard to honestly when you’re not interacting with the world much.

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9 hours ago, nwohweather said:


I’ve worn one since March and plan to until vaccinated.

I've worn my mask indoors and been out and about and have been dining inside at least once or twice per week.  I'm also in K-12 education around several thousand of student and staff. We have been in school since August when the school year began.  I also vacationed out of state in the fall.  

I think my secret to not getting sick at all throughout has been good hygiene, some social distancing mask wearing, and a regiment of vitamins taken twice daily.  

Elderberry Gummies - 260mg Sambucus, Vitamin C and Zinc
D3 - 50 mcg
C - 1000 mg
B12 1000 mcg
Nature Made Men's Multivitamin + Omega-3 Gummies
Benadryl Alergy

I did direct work with three people who have large families and play sports who did catch the virus and exhibit symptoms so I'm doing something right.  

I'm hoping for a vaccine for school staff come soon.  I'm just a few months away from the age 60 cut off in Indiana.

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Sad news about Hank Aaron.  

Why am I bringing him up?  On his twitter page, he posted a picture of himself receiving his first dose of the covid vaccine on January 5, and the story was reported on at the time.  

No cause of death has been released yet, and I don't know what his health was, but it will be important to find out why he died especially with being a high profile person and since there have been some stories of old/frail deaths after receiving the vaccine.  People in their 80s die all the time though.

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2 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

We are unfortunately still racing towards 500k deaths. 

It sucks but that is pretty much baked in at this point.

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7 hours ago, Hoosier said:

Sad news about Hank Aaron.  

Why am I bringing him up?  On his twitter page, he posted a picture of himself receiving his first dose of the covid vaccine on January 5, and the story was reported on at the time.  

No cause of death has been released yet, and I don't know what his health was, but it will be important to find out why he died especially with being a high profile person and since there have been some stories of old/frail deaths after receiving the vaccine.  People in their 80s die all the time though.

Dang, didn't know that.

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:guitar:"Yesterday we saw our largest raw drop in hospitalizations during the pandemic…until today. Hospitalizations dropped by 3685 today, which brought the 7-day average to its lowest point in January."

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17 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said:

:guitar:"Yesterday we saw our largest raw drop in hospitalizations during the pandemic…until today. Hospitalizations dropped by 3685 today, which brought the 7-day average to its lowest point in January."

As someone who loves history & weather, this is the thing that fascinated me with the 1918-19 pandemic. Once herd immunity was reached it almost completely stopped on a dime as it mutated weaker according to experts.

I'm sure the real number is much higher than 25 million cases so a combination of that & vaccines will probably lead to a sharp decline in the coming months

 

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24 minutes ago, KokomoWX said:

Looks like a couple of weeks until Johnson and Johnson gets approval of its single dose vaccine.  Super easy storage requirements will be a plus too.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/23/fauci-johnson-johnson-covid-vaccine-may-get-approval-in-2-weeks/ 

Adding a third vaccine to the mix should really help boost the vaccination efforts

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2 hours ago, KokomoWX said:

Looks like a couple of weeks until Johnson and Johnson gets approval of its single dose vaccine.  Super easy storage requirements will be a plus too.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/23/fauci-johnson-johnson-covid-vaccine-may-get-approval-in-2-weeks/ 

I'm hearing its up to 90 percent effective. Very good news indeed 

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1 hour ago, chances14 said:

Adding a third vaccine to the mix should really help boost the vaccination efforts

100 million doses available by April. The light at the end of the tunnel is getting brighter by the day

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1 hour ago, chances14 said:

Adding a third vaccine to the mix should really help boost the vaccination efforts

The less stringent storage requirements and single dose will help to significantly increase the speed of immunizations. Also a much more viable vaccine for the development world.

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Very soon the issue will be the logistics of getting shots in the arm and not availability of vaccine.

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