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As of last night, 703,525 doses of vaccine were delivered to providers in Illinois, including Chicago.  In addition, approximately 268,525 doses have been allocated to the federal government’s Pharmacy Partnership Program for long-term care facilities.  This brings the total Illinois doses to 972,050.  IDPH is currently reporting a total of 384,658 vaccines administered, including 48,811 for long-term care facilities.  The 7-day rolling average of vaccines administered daily is approximately 25,400 doses. 

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6 minutes ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Indianapolis is in the red for the first time :(

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That is the worst that map has ever looked.  Interesting since our case/hospital metrics are not at their worst.  

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3 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

That is the worst that map has ever looked.  Interesting since our case/hospital metrics are not at their worst.  

Thats telling me hospitalizations are about to pick up unfortunately 

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2 hours ago, StormfanaticInd said:

Thats telling me hospitalizations are about to pick up unfortunately 

I doubt it. Actual infections are going down.

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1 hour ago, Angrysummons said:

I doubt it. Actual infections are going down.

You literally have no evidence of this. All the evidence is exactly to the contrary.

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6 minutes ago, Stebo said:

You literally have no evidence of this. All the evidence is exactly to the contrary.

Based on the fact of increased testing boosting overall cases after the holidays, that is pretty damning. Its peaked.

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3 minutes ago, Angrysummons said:

Based on the fact of increased testing boosting overall cases after the holidays, that is pretty damning. Its peaked.

Or that more people are getting it because of the holidays, there is a limit to how much testing can be done.

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After a hard day of procuring PPE and distributing it to law enforcement, first responders, and county employees, planning vaccination points of distribution in coordination with the local health department, and speaking with local hospital officials about the number and severity of cases being treated, it's refreshing to come home and see this avatar, as it's always good for a smile.

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35 minutes ago, Stebo said:

You literally have no evidence of this. All the evidence is exactly to the contrary.

Nationally, we are at our highest average daily number of cases right now.  It's almost like Angrysummons lives for being wrong.

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13 minutes ago, Hoosier said:

Nationally, we are at our highest average daily number of cases right now.  It's almost like Angrysummons lives for being wrong.

Yeah, at what point do the wrong posts need to go away? I feel like we are reaching that point, this is easily verified stuff that he is wrong about. So he is either being wrong for no reason or there is an ulterior motive here, and there have been other posters removed from threads like these in other subs here. Precedence is there, we don't need active misinformation being spread.

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2 minutes ago, NEILwxbo said:

I don’t know how someone can look at this and say things are getting better 

They are purposely lying because no other logical explanation.

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22 minutes ago, Stebo said:

They are purposely lying because no other logical explanation.

Ontario tried that in the Fall by saying testing is why we're finding new cases. A few weeks later when hospitals slowly started to see increase we barely did anything and said its mostly noise because of testing and that numbers have plateaued. 

Sitting here now 6 hours away from a Stay Home Mandate with no restaurants, gyms, malls, open. Curbside pick up for Home Depots, Lowes, Canadian Tire ect.. 

Kind of wish we were a bit stricter in the fall/December but ah well no going back now. 

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I'll put forward a contrarian argument regarding national trends, it appears that we may be approaching a plateau in hospitalizations right around 130,000 which has held roughly for the past week. Test positivity also peaked about a week ago and appears to be leveling off or starting to drop.

This could definitely still be a blip in the data but these are both signs that we may be at the peak.

There is the risk that it is a false peak and the more contagious strain of virus could send the infection back to the stratosphere. There's also a race going on between virus and vaccine.

I think even if the virus continues to run wild and I hope it doesn't, with the majority of the nursing home residents getting vaccinated by the end of this month we should hopefully see the daily deaths and infection fatality rate both dropping potentially dropping dramatically in February or March ( some of the timing is a matter of data reporting delays).

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1 hour ago, NEILwxbo said:

I don’t know how someone can look at this and say things are getting better 

maybe that's the chart for the old people that he doesn't care about.

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2 hours ago, mattb65 said:

I'll put forward a contrarian argument regarding national trends, it appears that we may be approaching a plateau in hospitalizations right around 130,000 which has held roughly for the past week. Test positivity also peaked about a week ago and appears to be leveling off or starting to drop.

This could definitely still be a blip in the data but these are both signs that we may be at the peak.

There is the risk that it is a false peak and the more contagious strain of virus could send the infection back to the stratosphere. There's also a race going on between virus and vaccine.

I think even if the virus continues to run wild and I hope it doesn't, with the majority of the nursing home residents getting vaccinated by the end of this month we should hopefully see the daily deaths and infection fatality rate both dropping potentially dropping dramatically in February or March ( some of the timing is a matter of data reporting delays).

Next week or two will be telling to see if this is really the peak and my problem with the other person's post is that it was in the context of frequent downplaying/minimizing, which you have not been doing.  

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1 hour ago, dta1984 said:

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Why is it a mystery that the same measures to limit spread of coronavirus wouldn't work for a virus that spreads via the same ways, but is MUCH less contagious, has a shorter period of pre-symptomatic spread, and is partially stopped due to herd immunity via flu shots and previous exposure? If that is too much to comprehend...you're probably the same type of person to share a brainless facebook copypasta. :lol:

For the record it's not just flu that's down either, RSV and enteroviruses are way down as well.

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39 minutes ago, fluoronium said:

Why is it a mystery that the same measures to limit spread of coronavirus wouldn't work for a virus that spreads via the same ways, but is MUCH less contagious, has a shorter period of pre-symptomatic spread, and is partially stopped due to herd immunity via flu shots and previous exposure? If that is too much to comprehend...you're probably the same type of person to share a brainless facebook copypasta. :lol:

For the record it's not just flu that's down either, RSV and enteroviruses are way down as well.

This sounds too much like science.  You will unfortunately soon be dismissed.  I however agree with you.  

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One thing I'm seeing as a possible missed opportunity with the vaccine rollout is that households aren't being vaccinated. We're hearing that doses have been sitting unused and the vials once open have a limited shelf life. If a health care worker also has a spouse and x # of kids, why not vaccinate them all? Another example is a household where one person is 75+ and their spouse is 70-74. Why would only vaccinate the 75+ year old and not both?

 

If the goal is getting population immunity, shouldn't we be trying to get as many shots in arms as possible and banking on the supply being there for the 2nd dose? I think that's the philosophy being applied in the moves to alleviate the excess supply this week, I'm just wondering if we could be doing even more. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on the speculation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Just now, RCNYILWX said:

One thing I'm seeing as a possible missed opportunity with the vaccine rollout is that households aren't being vaccinated. We're hearing that doses have been sitting unused and the vials once open have a limited shelf life. If a health care worker also has a spouse and x # of kids, why not vaccinate them all? If the goal is getting population immunity, shouldn't we be trying to get as many shots in arms as possible and banking on the supply being there for the 2nd dose? I think that's the philosophy being applied in the moves to alleviate the excess supply this week, I'm just wondering if we could be doing even more. Someone can correct me if I'm wrong on the speculation.

 

 

 

 

I think with how slow the roll out is, they are just focusing on the people who could easily get it due to occupation. Its ironic though we have a slow rollout but people who are avoiding getting the vax and then doses running the clock out. Needless to say this has been a massive failure in execution by the feds.

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I think with how slow the roll out is, they are just focusing on the people who could easily get it due to occupation. Its ironic though we have a slow rollout but people who are avoiding getting the vax and then doses running the clock out. Needless to say this has been a massive failure in execution by the feds.

Yep, the way our Federalist system works is that the states have a lot of power and autonomy. So they were always going to have a large role in the vaccine rollout. That said, agree, the federal government could and should have done much much more to organize the effort among the states, this is literally the largest vaccination campaign in our history. In past crises, we didn't essentially tell the states, "good luck" . Also it's a failure of Congress to not provide much needed funds for vaccine distribution until the recently passed relief bill.  

 

 

The failures of the initial vaccine rollout are similar to the failure of the federal govt to help organize the testing regime after the CDC fiasco with the test kits back in February. Yet another example in which our outcomes have been worse than they could've been. Don't think there's any way we avoid a large number of deaths from this virus, but even 100-150k less when it's all said and done would've been that many lives saved and that many less families in anguish, not to mention less people having spent time alone in the hospital battling the virus, and less people with long term health impacts.

 

 

 

 

 

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24 minutes ago, Angrysummons said:

Stebo the blabbering fool: I go by positivity and hospitalizations. It has peaked. It isn't growing anymore. Also to note, Johnson and Johnson's traditional vaccine will be out probably in February and by March will take over as the main vaccinating drug.

Among the many problems with your posts is that you express certainty and present questionable and at times factually false information as if it is factual. You also never provide links to sources which is particularly important when you're putting forward more questionable information. This was particularly true when you were posting nonsense about the vaccines. It was always "I know a guy". And never more than that.

You might be right that we are at the peak, you can see my post from yesterday expressing similar sentiments. But you need to look no further than the UK to see that they had a false peak before cases went out of control with the more contagious viral strain.

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The Johnson & Johnson vaccine isn't traditional by any means. It's a recombinant adenovirus that works quite similarly to the mRNA vaccines but with extra steps.

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