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48 minutes ago, NicInNC said:

Is it normal for the trees that broke or are leaning to look as though they were twisted. The bark where they are broken is actually all twisted on several trees. I automatically think tornado but there were no reports of tornadoes here in Winston.

Power still out all over the place and another huge tree just fell this morning right by my work (off Robinhood Rd) so I'm sure that will delay power being restored. But we aren't as bad off as those in Florida. 

Yes, and that twisting can result in huge spiral slashes in the trunks.


Those pines are super flexible, as the videos show.  The twisting and bending action when the upper growth catches the winds can cause spiral-like cracks.  If the tree isn't actually blown over or broken off, sometimes those huge cracks end up being closed again, sometimes closing on objects so it looks like the item was shoved through the three when what happened is it was blown into an open crack which then closed around the object.

 

Somewhere here i have a series of B&W photographs from Ocala National Forest after a major landfall.  It was acre after acre of bent, broken, and cracked trees and many of them had massive curling cracks.  Some others that were still standing had sap drips down the bark that revealed severe internal damage.

 

 

 

 

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Over 24 hours later and still no estimate from Duke.  At least I didn’t lose anything (unlike others) and the temps are nice, but I’m afraid to even guess how long it’s going to take to get power back on here.

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48 minutes ago, nchighcountrywx said:

It is a shame certain Mets totally discounted the stellar HRRR

Many companies then put their employees in extreme danger yesterday and many came home to damage that could have been contained if they were home 

The HRRR was amazingly good here in Danville, consistently showing 6+ inches of rain and strong gusts when other models showed less than 1/2 of that. Euro failed miserably with the track up here, had it WAY too far south. It was super bad with QPF as well. GFS FV# was much much better. 

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28 minutes ago, magpiemaniac said:

Over 24 hours later and still no estimate from Duke.  At least I didn’t lose anything (unlike others) and the temps are nice, but I’m afraid to even guess how long it’s going to take to get power back on here.

Duke is calling the effect of the storm on its power grid, "death by a thousand cuts".  There are several thousand issues, most only affecting a small number of customers. As usual, they are starting with infrastructure, hospitals and the like and then moving to the spots that will restore power to the most people with one fix. Finally, they will move into the neighborhoods working their way down to single customer problems.  Those folks will be waiting a while.

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14 minutes ago, jburns said:

Duke is calling the effect of the storm on its power grid, "death by a thousand cuts".  There are several thousand issues, most only affecting a small number of customers. As usual, they are starting with infrastructure, hospitals and the like and then moving to the spots that will restore power to the most people with one fix. Finally, they will move into the neighborhoods working their way down to single customer problems.  Those folks will be waiting a while.

A guy on my hunting board said that Duke had also sent crews south to preposition to help out in FL/GA....so they are also short crews....not sure if its true though. 

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24 minutes ago, jburns said:

Duke is calling the effect of the storm on its power grid, "death by a thousand cuts".  There are several thousand issues, most only affecting a small number of customers. As usual, they are starting with infrastructure, hospitals and the like and then moving to the spots that will restore power to the most people with one fix. Finally, they will move into the neighborhoods working their way down to single customer problems.  Those folks will be waiting a while.

I live in a dense neighborhood—and you can interpret that in a couple of ways—so I’m hoping that being in the middle of three thousand dark homes will provide Duke with the incentive to get cracking around here.  (After the essentials of course.)  Restoring in this area would be a good bang for their buck from an efficiency standpoint.

But I’m not holding my breath though.

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6 hours ago, SharonA said:

Yes, and that twisting can result in huge spiral slashes in the trunks.


Those pines are super flexible, as the videos show.  The twisting and bending action when the upper growth catches the winds can cause spiral-like cracks.  If the tree isn't actually blown over or broken off, sometimes those huge cracks end up being closed again, sometimes closing on objects so it looks like the item was shoved through the three when what happened is it was blown into an open crack which then closed around the object.

 

Somewhere here i have a series of B&W photographs from Ocala National Forest after a major landfall.  It was acre after acre of bent, broken, and cracked trees and many of them had massive curling cracks.  Some others that were still standing had sap drips down the bark that revealed severe internal damage.

 

 

 

 

Thank you so much for the explanation! 

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5 hours ago, nchighcountrywx said:

It is a shame certain Mets totally discounted the stellar HRRR

Many companies then put their employees in extreme danger yesterday and many came home to damage that could have been contained if they were home 

The hrrr did a horrible job for my neck of the woods. Barely gusted to 40 when it was showing we should have had 55 to 65. Guess it all depending on the mechanism for bringing the gusts down.

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7 hours ago, SharonA said:

Yes, and that twisting can result in huge spiral slashes in the trunks.


Those pines are super flexible, as the videos show.  The twisting and bending action when the upper growth catches the winds can cause spiral-like cracks.  If the tree isn't actually blown over or broken off, sometimes those huge cracks end up being closed again, sometimes closing on objects so it looks like the item was shoved through the three when what happened is it was blown into an open crack which then closed around the object.

 

Somewhere here i have a series of B&W photographs from Ocala National Forest after a major landfall.  It was acre after acre of bent, broken, and cracked trees and many of them had massive curling cracks.  Some others that were still standing had sap drips down the bark that revealed severe internal damage.

 

 

 

 

I would think the timing would have to be perfect for an object to get stuck in a crack in a tree flying by at 140+mph.

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41 minutes ago, shaggy said:

I would think the timing would have to be perfect for an object to get stuck in a crack in a tree flying by at 140+mph.

Thousands of trees, thousands of objects. As they yelled at you in little league baseball when you had two strikes, IT ONLY TAKES ONE.

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It took Duke Energy over thirty hours of “assessing damage” to come up with a power restoration estimate of Tuesday, October 16 at 11:45 PM.

I feel sorry for my generator, but it’s a Honda and can probably manage.

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Posted in the main thread in the tropical subforum but posting here as it is just incredible footage. Sudduth mounted a GoPro in Mexico Beach. In all the recent years of impressive landfall footage, this takes the cake. Some of the gusts/bursts look similar to shockwaves:

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All I got to say about that video is WOW. Notice how all the structures on the opposite side of the road as well as most of the road are gone. I am impressed that the camera stayed put and recorded all of it.

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1 hour ago, magpiemaniac said:

It took Duke Energy over thirty hours of “assessing damage” to come up with a power restoration estimate of Tuesday, October 16 at 11:45 PM.

I feel sorry for my generator, but it’s a Honda and can probably manage.

The outage numbers for Duke Energy customers in the Triad are as follows as of 9 p.m. Friday:

  • Guilford County – 70,844
  • Forsyth County – 17,303
  • Rockingham County – 20,870
  • Alamance County – 17,332
  • Randolph County – 9,662
  • Davidson County – 5,632
  • Caswell County – 4,190
  • Stokes County – 2,557
  • Davie County – 993
  • Montgomery County – 1,224

 

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That video is amazing.  One of the cool things about the technology we have now.   You could put up GoPros in 20 cities around where a hurricane is landing and it be relatively cheap and not risk anyone’s lives.  

Unreal seeing how fast that water is steaming in and flowing.  At first I thought the view changed to a camera on the beach itself because of it.  Wow.   Could be decades before anything like that will ever be seen again.

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No power here in far northeastern Guilford county. Estimated restoration is Monday or Tuesday. I do believe Duke energy sent alot of there crews south thinking it wouldn't be that bad here. I have drove around for miles and haven't seen one line truck.

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2 hours ago, yotaman said:

Man I have a hard time believing that.  I bet we had sustained 45mph winds here in Kernersville for nearly 20 minutes.  There definitely had to be a few gusts over 55mph but I guess that is whats recorded at KINT and/or KGSO.

Collectively all of these recordings just seem low to me given the damage.

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14 hours ago, hickory said:

No power here in far northeastern Guilford county. Estimated restoration is Monday or Tuesday. I do believe Duke energy sent alot of there crews south thinking it wouldn't be that bad here. I have drove around for miles and haven't seen one line truck.

There's a ton of folks in Central and SE NC with no power...maybe back on Tuesday or Wednesday...good luck sir.

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On 10/12/2018 at 10:54 PM, Windspeed said:

Posted in the main thread in the tropical subforum but posting here as it is just incredible footage. Sudduth mounted a GoPro in Mexico Beach. In all the recent years of impressive landfall footage, this takes the cake. Some of the gusts/bursts look similar to shockwaves:
 

I can't believe that camera stayed up...must be welded to a steel beam buried in cement.  That's mind blowing!

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On 10/12/2018 at 10:06 PM, magpiemaniac said:

It took Duke Energy over thirty hours of “assessing damage” to come up with a power restoration estimate of Tuesday, October 16 at 11:45 PM.

I feel sorry for my generator, but it’s a Honda and can probably manage.

Hondas are good motors...but I think it's gonna be Wednesday or Thursday before the lights come back on for Central and SE NC...all the resources seem to be down south ATM.  Good luck!

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3 hours ago, NC_hailstorm said:

100K still out of power in NC,good thing they had some sort of warning what was coming.

A tropical storm warning and then a severe thunderstorm warning for the “stinger jet” is what we received up here. 

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