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March 2-4th ... first -NAO anchored storm perhaps in years


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Just now, jbenedet said:

Don’t say that, flooding potential would be yuge.

Mostly tongue in cheek...it's hard to buy the GFS/GEFS suite (particularly the northern most ensemble members) given that all the other 12z guidance is way south of it. We'll see what the Euro says soon, but I'll bet it's more on the Ukie/GGEM train.

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Just now, JC-CT said:

gefs are useless now. they will follow the op wherever it goes.

It seems the case especially once you get closer in. 4-5 days out, they can still offer some ideas, though even then they do tend to mimic the OP more than you'd like.

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Just now, ORH_wxman said:

It seems the case especially once you get closer in. 4-5 days out, they can still offer some ideas, though even then they do tend to mimic the OP more than you'd like.

Yeah, sorry I meant now that we are within 72 hours. Not, now as opposed to last year or something.

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A lot of the GEFS members do actually give some decent CCB snows once the system sinks SE to the benchmark...so looking at the 72 hour panels can be a bit deceptive. This isn't over Ginxy on it's way to PWM...it goes SE and still has a ton of easterly flow.

 

 

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Just now, JC-CT said:

Are you saying there will be no rain?

I ve been saying to clients for 2 days.. this is most likely a storm that starts as rain and flips over during Friday to a crushing , heavy wet snow. Elevations favored, but even coasts and valleys flip to snow at some point. I just don’t know if that’s Friday morning or afternoon or when. That is the hardest part to figure  

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Just now, Damage In Tolland said:

Are you saying a Rainer is happening?

Happening?  Not quite sure yet given the disparity in models, but given the background atmospheric conditions, I would hedge in that direction. We are relying on dynamics to cool the atmosphere and we will need an optimal track for thito occur.  The GFS and GEFS are not that.  There would be some backend snows but nothing prolific and not before a lot of front end rain.

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