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Winter Banter & General Discussion/Observations


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2 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Feb 17 ain't got nothing on Feb 15 8,281 cold daily temperature records (4,778 daily cold maximum temperature records and 3,503 daily cold minimum temperature records) broken or tied.

Ironically, you are arguing against global warming by using the same logic you criticized me for using...lol...its over man. 

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Just now, psv88 said:

Ironically, you are arguing against global warming by using the same logic you criticized me for using...lol...its over man. 

I never once argued against the climate warming , if you had reading comprehension you would see I indeed said the the climate has warmed, just pointing out the ignorance of using individual events to justify it. Over lol, yep it may never snow again. 

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4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Feb 17 ain't got nothing on Feb 15 8,281 cold daily temperature records (4,778 daily cold maximum temperature records and 3,503 daily cold minimum temperature records) broken or tied.

 Even anecdotally it seems like warm records are probably running 3:1 over cold ones in the last decade.  Snowman21 would be the one to ask though.  

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Just now, Ginx snewx said:

I never once argued against the climate warming , if you had reading comprehension you would see I indeed said the the climate has warmed, just pointing out the ignorance of using individual events to justify it. Over lol, yep it may never snow again. 

 I misinterpreted your post, disregard my reply above haha.

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1 minute ago, powderfreak said:

 Even anecdotally it seems like warm records are probably running 3:1 over cold ones in the last decade.  Snowman21 would be the one to ask though.  

One mans misery is another's glory although I surmise even this would be too much for you.

http://squawalpine.com/explore/blog/operations-update-feb-22-23

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1 hour ago, psv88 said:

What? I got plenty of snow this winter, i am already above average, has nothing to do with that. I have no problem with snow when its cold, and warm when its not snowing. Perfect in my book. 

3 months in a row of +8 temp departures, after least years +13 for December is not "short term." 

NYC has like 20 months in a row of + temp departures, its not short term. 

But keep sticking your head in the sand. 

Have not seen anyone on these past few pages arguing that the temperatures are not warming, least of all Ginxy.  20 consecutive AN months are more likely in our warmer climate, though it might be interesting to peek at NYC records for the early 1930s or late '40s to see if they've ever had a similar string. 

What gets irksome is when folks declare that every AN temp/big rainstorm "proves" global warming.  This is mainly done by MSM - how often do we hear "broke the high temp record set 122 years ago" or some such as "proof".   A couple years back Britain had some very heavy rains - "greatest rain event in 63 years (I may have the number wrong) thanks to climate change", and my obvious reaction was, what caused the even bigger rain back then?  The longer term records strongly support that temps are warming and big rain events are increasing - for example, the nearby Farmington co-op has 124 years of record, and half of their calendar days with 4"+ rainfall have occurred in the past 20 years, the other half over the previous 104.  There's plenty of good long-term data supporting a warmer, wetter climate; we don't need to use shorter term weather for that purpose.

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Just now, tamarack said:

Have not seen anyone on these past few pages arguing that the temperatures are not warming, least of all Ginxy.  20 consecutive AN months are more likely in our warmer climate, though it might be interesting to peek at NYC records for the early 1930s or late '40s to see if they've ever had a similar string. 

What gets irksome is when folks declare that every AN temp/big rainstorm "proves" global warming.  This is mainly done by MSM - how often do we hear "broke the high temp record set 122 years ago" or some such as "proof".   A couple years back Britain had some very heavy rains - "greatest rain event in 63 years (I may have the number wrong) thanks to climate change", and my obvious reaction was, what caused the even bigger rain back then?  The longer term records strongly support that temps are warming and big rain events are increasing - for example, the nearby Farmington co-op has 124 years of record, and half of their calendar days with 4"+ rainfall have occurred in the past 20 years, the other half over the previous 104.  There's plenty of good long-term data supporting a warmer, wetter climate; we don't need to use shorter term weather for that purpose.

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11 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Have not seen anyone on these past few pages arguing that the temperatures are not warming, least of all Ginxy.  20 consecutive AN months are more likely in our warmer climate, though it might be interesting to peek at NYC records for the early 1930s or late '40s to see if they've ever had a similar string. 

What gets irksome is when folks declare that every AN temp/big rainstorm "proves" global warming.  This is mainly done by MSM - how often do we hear "broke the high temp record set 122 years ago" or some such as "proof".   A couple years back Britain had some very heavy rains - "greatest rain event in 63 years (I may have the number wrong) thanks to climate change", and my obvious reaction was, what caused the even bigger rain back then?  The longer term records strongly support that temps are warming and big rain events are increasing - for example, the nearby Farmington co-op has 124 years of record, and half of their calendar days with 4"+ rainfall have occurred in the past 20 years, the other half over the previous 104.  There's plenty of good long-term data supporting a warmer, wetter climate; we don't need to use shorter term weather for that purpose.

But you are saying that an extreme event, aka a 4"+ rainfall, is indicative of climate change...so you are using extreme events as part of your data set, albeit to indicate the increased frequency of said events, but still using the events nonetheless, so one extreme event forms the part of a trend, therefore the individual extreme events naturally, must be, still indicative of climate change...

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I think global warming is happening at an alarming rate. Every year the sun feels stronger and it seems warmer and warmer getting into my car even during the coldest of days when the sun angle is weakest (dec/jan)

I spend quite a bit of time outside, the sun feels stronger all the time and much more so than 10-15 years ago. Also when anyone brings up the cold weather in Feb/ March a couple years ago, please remember that while we were freezing, most of the rest of the world was on fire

There are more bugs more active for longer periods of time every year

There is no doubt in my mind we are warming at an alarming rate

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