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Winter 2014-15 Banter Thread


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In my defense the guy that jumped in on me was wayyyy off, said the low was in PA at hr 36 and it was all the way back in Ohio lol... I won't ever do a PBP again lol

 

I wasn't directing that at you. Just past experience with the forum.

 

I still think we should have a banter thread specifically for each larger storm so the complaints and IMBY posts can stay out of the storm discussion thread. 

 

Yes they can, and quite spectacularly.

 

As you cleverly said, with some people it goes back to the discussion about the best model being the one that gives the most snow.

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Snowfall 2014-15 Winter

Through January 31, 2014  / 6:00 PM

 

Islip: 30.6"

NWS Upton 23.1"

LaGuardia: 21.4"

Bridgeport: 19.6"

JFK: 17.5"

Newark: 16.6"

Central Park: 16.5"

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Snowfall 2014-15 Winter

Through January 31, 2014 / 6:00 PM

Islip: 30.6"

NWS Upton 23.1"

LaGuardia: 21.4"

Bridgeport: 19.6"

JFK: 17.5"

Newark: 16.6"

Central Park: 16.5"

Thanks for the stats.

LI and the nw crew ftw (even though the nw crew isn't on that list) .

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The model thread is absolutely horrid right now! All of a sudden the NAM is gospel and NYC and LI are going to have a big rain storm. Come on people. Look at the meteorology not modelology. How did that do for us with the last storm? Watch the wind direction . It means absolutely everything.

agreed ..models are a tool mets should use in their overall forecast ..this forecast is from being sealed.. A slight change can make a huge difference..
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if we get 10-15 more inches of snow for the season ..I'm referring to NYC ..than I'm OK with that every winter can't be 40 plus ...

Yeah give me normal snowfall and below normal temps and I'm happy....  also nam has temps dropping close to 10 degrees by 10 pm Monday...should be fun with all the slush around.

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The model thread is absolutely horrid right now! All of a sudden the NAM is gospel and NYC and LI are going to have a big rain storm. Come on people. Look at the meteorology not modelology. How did that do for us with the last storm? Watch the wind direction . It means absolutely everything.

Unfortunately if the low makes it north of NYC's latitude, the wind will shift onshore. Most models have that happening now, not just the NAM. The RGEM is even more horrendous-that would probably leave you with nearly bare ground after the storm. The S/W strengthening and transient confluence make the warmer solutions pretty likely actually. :(

 

Glad I'm in Texas!! :thumbsup:

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The model thread is absolutely horrid right now! All of a sudden the NAM is gospel and NYC and LI are going to have a big rain storm. Come on people. Look at the meteorology not modelology. How did that do for us with the last storm? Watch the wind direction . It means absolutely everything.

Prob 1-3" for you and I, then sleet then rain.

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I just got a recorded call from my Town of Oyster Bay supervisor saying that a WSW has been issued for most of the town.

 

I would have thought that the NWS would have pulled the warning by now.

you actually think they are going to pull it before the event begins after the cancelled freezing rain advisory fiasco ? They are going to wait till its obvious after the precip arrives  a warning isn't needed then downgrade it to an advisory.........

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you actually think they are going to pull it before the event begins after the cancelled freezing rain advisory fiasco ? They are going to wait till its obvious after the precip arrives  a warning isn't needed then downgrade it to an advisory.........

There could still be 4 inches of snow up on the N shore of Nassau county .  Even if it gets to 35 for a few hours back here . ( I am in Laurel Hollow for this storm ) . The ground is frozen and the first few hours of rain could ice things up a bit  . ( we just 2 Sundays ago what could happen with light rain over frozen ground ) even with temps 33 - 35 .

 

 Then whatever melts after that could be met by a flash freeze on the backside and it could be quick .There could be a 20 degree drop on the backside in 6 hours  on Long Island , so all that slush will freeze on the roads .

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Prob 1-3" for you and I, then sleet then rain.

I agree. Though I think it's closer to 3 then 1 as it will come down heavy overnight before going to sleet around daybreak then freezing rain for an hour or 2 then rain. Back to snow with a coating in the afternoon. The snow pack in wantagh is pretty tuff as it has condensed. I think what falls with this storm is all that really melts and we come out of it with the same amount of snow but a wetter more robust pack with the flash freeze. I highly recommend removing any slush because whatever is left will turn to rock!

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There could still be 4 inches of snow up on the N shore of Nassau county .  Even if it gets to 35 for a few hours back here . ( I am in Laurel Hollow for this storm ) . The ground is frozen and the first few hours of rain could ice things up a bit  . ( we just 2 Sundays ago what could happen with light rain over frozen ground ) even with temps 33 - 35 .

 

 Then whatever melts after that could be met by a flash freeze on the backside and it could be quick .There could be a 20 degree drop on the backside in 6 hours  on Long Island , so all that slush will freeze on the roads .

I'm thinking easterly winds at 10 to 15mph for about five hours will bring our temperature up to about 35 degrees here.

 

Perhaps the snow on the front end will be heavy.

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The model thread is absolutely horrid right now! All of a sudden the NAM is gospel and NYC and LI are going to have a big rain storm. Come on people. Look at the meteorology not modelology. How did that do for us with the last storm? Watch the wind direction . It means absolutely everything.

I agree that the models shouldn't always be followed run to run. Trends are more important. However, the problems with the last storm actually from NOT following almost all of the models and following only a couple.....it goes both ways
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