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@Matthew70refused to concede that winter was over. Looks like he paid his bill. This is a nice receipt!!! 45/50 states have winter weather products issued.

Good, I was just starting to think about a contest location and format and spotted this ... thanks. NYC: 6.8" (NYC) maybe 8-10 at other locations in the city Boston: 20.4" Philly: 3.7" (lots of sleet) DC: 4.5" (DCA) maybe 7" IAD Hartford: 17.5" Albany: 18.8" Me: As I live outside the storm zone I will add ORH 22.7" and ABE 14.5"

That seems to lock in the cold behind it for the weekend system

This one is in the bag... Time to focus on reeling in next weekend potential. We will most likely be a western edge hit if anything. I wonder how the snow pack after this storm will affect the next one. How will snow pack baroclinic zone set up.

`Still think my call for 7 is still in play. Chance of hitting double digits have diminished some but getting close to a nowcast and subtle changes in QPF can make a BIG difference with these SLR's approaching 25-1, especially on the N/NW side. As OHWeather pointed out the drivers the limiter on "our" side of this thing is going to be how long it takes the DGZ and that dry NE flow at the surface to get juiced and the amount of forcing we can get before it shunts E. As a note, not in our forum but I have a lot of connections in the NC mnt's. A lot of focus has been on deep south ice but I cannot emphasize enough how much more devastating ice in the those mnts just due to limited infrastructure and emergency access. I have been watching the models and every 25-50 years we get a setup like this that could be setting up for the NC/SC mnts. More and more its looking like a strong CAD trapped on the eastern slopes setting up a wedge where the surface low, instead of shunting E through the Chattanooga plateau where they usually do in winter (sad for us), and instead is going to ride up to the Shenandoah valley and shunt E (better for us) there. When this happens you have that warm moist area lifting over the mnts and falling down through that CAD as freezing rain. The setup has to be perfect and this one is as you can see it in the contour fields on the surface maps. Ice storms of this ones potential magnitude there can shut the mnts down for MONTHS. The locals there that have been there a long time are very aware of the devastation a massive ice storm can bring in the mnt's. They actually fear those more than a flooding hurricane remnant. I've seen it myself and it looks like an area the size of Vermont was hit by a bomb. Sorry for the off topic but a lot of concern for them right now.

Qpf cut on gfs moving to euro

GFS H5 map has players on the field for next potential...let's see where it goes

Ukie held serve i guess. Its a mess...drier and has snow to Delaware with 552 thickness

What NAM are you guys looking at? Still seeing double digits region-wide over at TT... What am I missing?

The GFS has trouble with east coast snowstorms. especially with a tricky northern stream Some people have drawn similarities to 2/12/14. The GFS wasn't on board until like 12 hours out. Which is to say. i think its too cold

URGENT WEATHER STATEMENTNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE – WINTER DISAPPOINTMENT DESKISSUED: Immediately, because hope is fragileSUMMARY:A significant winter storm is expected to impact the region. Forecast confidence remains high for heavy snow potential, followed by a dangerous transition to sleet, freezing rain, or the ultimate betrayal: plain rain.⸻HAZARDS:• Initial excitement from model runs showing 18–30 inches• Rapid emotional destabilization as warm nose appears• Keyboard smashing, doom posting, and refresh-induced psychosis• Statements such as “this storm is dead” at T-72 hours⸻SUICIDE WATCH (METEOROLOGICAL): IN EFFECTA Snowlover Emotional Crisis Watch is in effect for the duration of the event.Residents are advised:• Do not do anything rash based on one model run• Step away from social media during the sleet phase• Remember: one band can still save the storm• Refrain from declaring winter “over” before March⸻TIMING:• Snow: Hope Phase• Sleet/Freezing Rain: Anger Phase• Rain: Acceptance (or complete meltdown)• Post-storm: “Next system looks promising” Phase⸻PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS:• Touch grass (or snow, if available)• Hydrate• Do not fight family members over 850 mb temps• Seek professional help if you start trusting the GFS blindly⸻FORECAST CONFIDENCE:Low on precipitation typeHigh on emotional damage

Not that. Comes in from PA. Can see it on MSLP and 700 VV.

Above is only thru 1pm

Profile pic checks out. No wonder why you see what others don’t. Enjoy the trip my guy

and yet Florida pulls a 10" right down to the beaches. We are so effing cursed lmfaooo

Where do you get that plot from again?

GFS went southeast, NAM went northwest. Man I miss the days of having what felt like good models.

Longer range Rap currently updating is colder and wetter. Of course, there's the range issue, but it's better than warmer/dryer.

They dont care. Once you get up to those ranges schools are closed and travel is hazardous. They could put 10+ everywhere and they are covered.

Interesting. I was looking at 13z vs. 20z and looking at total precip 20z looks juicier.

What? Don't fall for the trap. All systems go.

The CGI (canadian goose index) just rocketed off the charts here. Must have had 300 or so just go overhead and i hear more coming. Couldnt ask them in time if they thought the warm nose was being over-modeled though. Still have to wait and see.

Certainly the quicker we can get precip into NC, the greater the snow chances will be. At the same time, the dew points will be so low Sat evening, its hard to imagine any precip actually making it to the surface.

Out of the area but related to the cold air funneling in.....wind chills tmrw for KMWN are going to approach -90.