Monty Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 22 minutes ago, Picard said: One of the big issues that I'm not sure people realize would be sunrises of nearly 8:30 am during the shortest days of the year. Were going to send an entire country of kids to the bus stop and to walk to school in the dark? It ain't broke. Don't try to fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Brian5671 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 11 hours ago, Picard said: One of the big issues that I'm not sure people realize would be sunrises of nearly 8:30 am during the shortest days of the year. And that's here. Some places in the country would be after 9am. 11 hours ago, SnoSki14 said: By every account standard time wins. We tried permanent DST before and it failed on every level. Yep. If we do permanent DST it will last one year at best. 10 hours ago, Monty said: Were going to send an entire country of kids to the bus stop and to walk to school in the dark? It ain't broke. Don't try to fix it. This is why it failed in 1973-74 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 69 / 58 clouds south partly sunny north of SNJ. We'll see if we can hold the clouds at bay today and get a nice day in with highs near / slightly abovre normal low - mid 80s. warmer tomorrow but still looking cloudy. We'll see if the dry / sunny forecasts hold for this coming weekend with a very strong cutoff moving through Northeast Saturday and chlly NE flow. Trends for cutoff city as ULL under the ridge - lots of onshore and could be unsettled into Jun 6th timeframe with ridge not able to advance east of the mIdwest - we'll see if the heat is held off till the second week of June. ; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: And that's here. Some places in the country would be after 9am. Yep. If we do permanent DST it will last one year at best. This is why it failed in 1973-74 I dont think it'll get far enough and we'll be locked in the current state. Later sunsets / later sunrises the battle of the few with the masses simply don't want to change clocks either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 3rd spring in a row with the coolest high temperature departure occurring in May. Several spots have had a top 10 warmest spring so far. Very impressive temperature swings both earlier and later in the spring over short periods. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 minutes ago, SACRUS said: I dont think it'll get far enough and we'll be locked in the current state. Later sunsets / later sunrises the battle of the few with the masses simply don't want to change clocks either way. The difference this go around it's that it's part of another bill and not a separate bill. That's how it was expanded back in 2007 to March-Nov (Added another month to DST) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Records: Highs: EWR: 96 (1965) NYC: 95 (1880) LGA: 94 (2010) JFK: 91 (2010) Lows: EWR: 44 (1967) NYC: 42 (1967) LGA: 45 (1972) JFK: 52 (1967) Historical: 1771 - A famous Virginia flood occurred as heavy rains in the mountains brought all rivers in the state to record high levels. (Sandra and TI Richard Sanders - 1987) 1880: Record maximum temperature for Washington DC. for the date is 96 °F. Boston, MA recorded its highest temperature ever for May of 97 °F. 1917 - A tornado touched down near Louisiana MO about noon and remained on the ground for a distance of 293 miles, finally lifting seven hours and twenty minutes later in eastern Jennings County, IN. The twister cut a swath of destruction two and a half miles wide through Mattoon, IL. There were 101 persons killed in the tornado, including 53 at Mattoon, and 38 at Charleston IL. Damage from the storm totalled 2.5 million dollars. (David Ludlum) 1924: On this date through the 27th, an outbreak of tornadoes occurred in the Deep South that killed 53 people. An entire family of eight was killed near Elkmont, AL. 10 people were killed and 30 were injured as an F3 tornado stormed across jasper Clarke and Lauderdale counties in Mississippi. Another 15 people were killed and 74 others injured when F2 tornadoes marched across Washington, Lincoln, Noxubee, Covington, Jones and Clarke counties. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1955: Udall, Kansas: An early-morning a tornado virtually obliterates the small community of Udall killing 80 persons and injuring 270.(Ref. WxDoctor) 1961: Snow flurries are observed across Lower Michigan as unseasonably cold air moved in. Temperatures fell well below freezing the next morning, wiping out much of the fruit crop. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1967: A great coastal Nor'Easter struck New England. Winds up to 80 mph were reported along the coast. 5 to 10 inches of very late season snow fell in the Berkshires. Much of the tobacco crop in the Connecticut Valley was wiped out as freezing temperatures were reported. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1984 - Thunderstorms during the late evening and early morning hours produced 6 to 13 inches of rain at Tulsa OK in six hours (8.63 inches at the airport). Flooding claimed fourteen lives and caused 90 million dollars property damage. 4600 cars, 743 houses, and 387 apartments were destroyed or severely damage in the flood. (Storm Data) (The Weather Channel) 1987 - Thunderstorms in southwest Iowa spawned five tornadoes and produced up to ten inches of rain. Seven inches of rain at Red Oak forced evacuation of nearly 100 persons from the town. Record flooding took place in southwest Iowa the last twelve days of May as up to 17 inches of rain drenched the area. Total damage to crops and property was estimated at 16 million dollars. (The National Weather Summary) (Storm Data) 1988 - There was "frost on the roses" in the Upper Ohio Valley and the Central Appalachian Mountain Region. Thirteen cities reported record low temperatures for the date, including Youngstown OH with a reading of 30 degrees. Evening thunderstorms in North Dakota produced wind gusts to 75 mph at Jamestown. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1989 - Thunderstorms in produced large hail in eastern Oklahoma during the pre-dawn hours, and again during the evening and night. Hail two inches in diameter was reported near Prague, and thunderstorm winds gusted to 70 mph near Kenefic. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1990 - Thunderstorms produced severe weather from eastern Colorado to western Arkansas and northeastern Texas. Severe thunderstorms spawned three tornadoes, and there were eighty-eight reports of large hail or damaging winnds. Evening thunderstorms over central Oklahoma spawned strong tornadoes east of Hinton and east of Binger, produced hail three inches in diameter at Minco, and produced wind gusts to 85 mph at Blanchard. (Storm Data) (The National Weather Summary) 1991: Erie, PA picked up a half inch of rain in just five minutes. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 1992: A widespread frost and hard freeze hit most of South Dakota except for the southeast. Record low temperatures were set at Huron: 28°, Pierre: 29° and Rapid City & Aberdeen with 30°. The coldest temperature in the state was 18° near Wessington Springs. The widespread freeze was hard on the agricultural community where $14 million dollars in crop losses were estimated. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 2003: A BMI airbus bound for Cyprus from Manchester, England encountered a violent thunderstorm over Germany. The plane bounced and twisted violently as it ran into severe turbulence with huge hailstones pounding the exterior. A football sized hole was punched in the plane's exterior. None of the 213 passengers or eight crew members was seriously hurt. (Ref. Wilson Wx. History) 2005: Seattle-Tacoma, Washington on the 26th and 27th:High temperatures of 89 °F on the 26th and 27th at SeaTac International Airport breaks daily maximum records. The first breaks a 58-year-old record, the second a 33-year-old record for the date. (Ref. WxDoctor) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago The easiest compromise is to meet halfway, and make it permanently 30 minutes ahead of standard time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: The difference this go around it's that it's part of another bill and not a separate bill. That's how it was expanded back in 2007 to March-Nov (Added another month to DST) It was 6 weeks-ish added un the Bush admin From Apr - Oct / Mar - Nov. The one in the 70s failed after a year. Im not sure how quick the senate will get their bill going. They will force states to be exempt like AZ, etc in their version. I still dont see it getting through the house/ senate onto the desk for signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago On 5/18/2026 at 8:24 PM, SACRUS said: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said: The easiest compromise is to meet halfway, and make it permanently 30 minutes ahead of standard time. That would complicate things just a little bit. Now is also a time to reassess which locations are in which timezones - that could be beneficial by itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WX-PA Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, PhiEaglesfan712 said: The easiest compromise is to meet halfway, and make it permanently 30 minutes ahead of standard time. I remember January 1974..I was in my classroom taking a final at it was pitch black at 830am..Is that more sunshine?. I think it's hard for people to get up for work and school in darkness. And the kids at the bus stops?..is it safe in the dark?..Now going All Standard time might work if you don't want to change the clock at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 54 minutes ago Share Posted 54 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, WX-PA said: I remember January 1974..I was in my classroom taking a final at it was pitch black at 830am..Is that more sunshine?. I think it's hard for people to get up for work and school in darkness. And the kids at the bus stops?..is it safe in the dark?..Now going All Standard time might work if you don't want to change the clock at all. No one wants an hour less of sunlight in the evenings in the summer with that scenario. Sunset in NYC would be at 7:30 vs 8:30pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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