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Don't think so..When you deal with averages, everything balances out..The last 2 decades was not the climate for NY Metro..it was too snowy. This isn't the climate either..it's somewhere in the middle. There will be snowy, cold winters again..From 1972-1977 it didn't snow in this area. The same from 1983-1992..I went through those times, we celebrated a 3 inch snowstorm.

It's our third La Nina year in a row, so you'd have to figure the SE ridge would be a major factor, which it has.El Nino can turn into a snowy, cold winter if it's weak or moderate..Strong Nino and you know it's going to be warm.

This is most of the 70's.80's and 90's. I think the youngsters on the board think the climate of NYC is the period from 2000-2017. It's not. 12 inch plus snowstorms became common. IN the 70's, 80's you'd be happy for 4 inches. That would be a lot.

Since some of us hasn't seen snow accumulate by the end of January it puts up some red flags..I don't know I'm over with it already. Losing interest in a hurry

Knowing you, I am so shocked you would say that.

Total nonsense..Weather 2 to 3 weeks in advance is hard to forecast. I mean we have people here who think they can figure out specific storm systems and patterns 6 weeks in advance. Some try it as a hobby and some are trolls.The person who said February is shot is the same person who won't be around if we get into a snowy cold pattern in a few weeks, trust me on that.

Yea if you like snow this winter has been a disaster so far. 2.7 snow in 1972-73 winter is the least snow..We might take a shot at it. Next winter looks like a weak el Nino which might be better news for us. I guess you have to grin and bear it.

If MJO 8 fails by mid late month I think even you will be throwing in the towel.I'll start thinking about baseball and Spring.

5 degrees in Dillsburg PA reminds me of Christmas 1980

Well really past day 10 on any ensemble, OP is useless..And then CFS put's monthly's and seasonal out which is a joke. How can any model predict the weather 3-6 months ahead. Basically it's for entertainment use, but some forecasters take it seriously

Nobody was talking about global warming from 2002-2014..when every other year was a blockbuster winter for snow. The coastal sections of the mid atlantic, NYC are not a snowy climate lets face it. Most of the 70's, 80's and 90's it hardly snowed here, especially in December. I think it's Mother Nature's way of balancing things out to normal.Man it took 10 years to get a snowfall over a foot in NYC from 83-93. And 9 years from 69-78

That's when we'll probably get snow. lol

Also tons of bad luck. It's just dates on the calendar really. I doubt the climate says you will be warm from December 17th through the 25th

Light rain here 36..Might be west, but you wanna be north for this one

Very 70's, 80's and 90's..western trough and -PNA dominated..There were exception's that lead to great winters,but really this is climo in December for NYC and the coastal sections