NEG NAO Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, qg_omega said: its over by Monday yes the rain should be mostly over by Monday but if you are implying this will end the drought - think again Upton only going for less than 3 inches overall more south than north AFD from KOKX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago 10 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: yes the rain should be mostly over by Monday but if you are implying this will end the drought - think again Upton only going for less than 3 inches overall more south than north AFD from KOKX 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evie3 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago In other news, I've been seeing short and medium term forecasts that indicate that the weather pattern over the Southeastern US is changing and there is a persistent moisture flow setting up (which will be very beneficial as they've been in a very severe drought that's had a major impact on agriculture etc). I don't understand the meteorology behind all of that, but if we are on the fringes we might benefit by way of more consistent precipitation going forward (?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago On 5/21/2026 at 3:08 PM, Brian5671 said: Long duration rainstorm on tap-while it will help the drought the timing is awful. True - many merchants in the shore towns will see less $$$ than expected but it will help the drought from getting any worse in the short term BUT we need soakers like this on a regular basis for a month or so to really lessen drought conditions - not lilkely with June traditionally not one of our wettest months and a stretch of sunny warm/hot long summer days more likely than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Clouds will increase tonight. Rain will develop tomorrow and continue into Sunday. A general 0.50"-1.50" rainfall is likely. Some locally higher amounts are possible. The temperature will likely remain in the 50s all day on Saturday and struggle to reach the lower 60s on Sunday. The mercury will likely return to the lower 70s on Monday. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.8°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +0.9°C for the week centered around May 13. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.63°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.70°C. El Niño conditions are now in place. The ongoing El Niño will continue to strengthen through the summer. The SOI was -19.74 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +0.868 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 66% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 63.8° (0.6° above normal). Supplemental Information: The projected mean would be 1.3° above the 1981-2010 normal monthly value. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 16 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: True - many merchants in the shore towns will see less $$$ than expected but it will help the drought from getting any worse in the short term BUT we need soakers like this on a regular basis for a month or so to really lessen drought conditions - not lilkely with June traditionally not one of our wettest months and a stretch of sunny warm/hot long summer days more likely than not. With the nino we could see a wetter summer.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 7 hours ago, MANDA said: @donsutherland1 or @bluewave Do either of you have any idea when the last time a monthly record low was tied or broken at any of our local climo sites? May 9, 2020 at JFK Airport (tied), LaGuardia Airport, and White Plains (tied). For Bridgeport: November 23, 2018 For Islip: June 1, 2009 For New York City-Central Park: August 29, 1986 (tied) For Newark: August 29, 1982 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 9 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: May 9, 2020 at JFK Airport (tied), LaGuardia Airport, and White Plains (tied). We had snow that week too-accumulated briefly on some colder surfaces... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 1 minute ago, Brian5671 said: We had snow that week too-accumulated briefly on some colder surfaces... Yes. I remember it well. The afternoon snow squall, even as it was short-lived, was quite impressive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEG NAO Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 25 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: Clouds will increase tonight. Rain will develop tomorrow and continue into Sunday. A general 0.50"-1.50" rainfall is likely. Some locally higher amounts are possible. The temperature will likely remain in the 50s all day on Saturday and struggle to reach the lower 60s on Sunday. The mercury will likely return to the lower 70s on Monday. The ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly was +1.8°C and the Region 3.4 anomaly was +0.9°C for the week centered around May 13. For the past six weeks, the ENSO Region 1+2 anomaly has averaged +1.63°C and the ENSO Region 3.4 anomaly has averaged +0.70°C. El Niño conditions are now in place. The ongoing El Niño will continue to strengthen through the summer. The SOI was -19.74 today. The preliminary Arctic Oscillation (AO) was +0.868 today. Based on sensitivity analysis applied to the latest guidance, there is an implied near 66% probability that New York City will have a warmer than normal May (1991-2020 normal). May will likely finish with a mean temperature near 63.8° (0.6° above normal). Supplemental Information: The projected mean would be 1.3° above the 1981-2010 normal monthly value. why are you going for much lower rainfall totals than Upton ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 25 minutes ago, NEG NAO said: why are you going for much lower rainfall totals than Upton ? I'm giving greater weight to the AIFS/ECMWF, as the 18z GFS reduced totals from the 12z run. I do think 2" amounts are most likely across eastern PA into western NJ. The City and nearby suburbs should generally be 1.00"-1.50" in my thinking, but parts of CT away from the coast will have lower amounts (0.50"-1.00"). That's why I used 0.50"-1.50" with some locally higher amounts for the general NYC area. On the other hand, the NBE has grown wetter with amounts near 1.70" in and around NYC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rclab Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 34 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: I'm giving greater weight to the AIFS/ECMWF, as the 18z GFS reduced totals from the 12z run. I do think 2" amounts are most likely across eastern PA into western NJ. The City and nearby suburbs should generally be 1.00"-1.50" in my thinking, but parts of CT away from the coast will have lower amounts (0.50"-1.00"). That's why I used 0.50"-1.50" with some locally higher amounts for the general NYC area. On the other hand, the NBE has grown wetter with amounts near 1.70" in and around NYC. Accu weather is going a little wetter, about 2.14 at the park for the Saturday thru Monday event. I believe your dryer totals will verify, as always….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jm1220 Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: I'm giving greater weight to the AIFS/ECMWF, as the 18z GFS reduced totals from the 12z run. I do think 2" amounts are most likely across eastern PA into western NJ. The City and nearby suburbs should generally be 1.00"-1.50" in my thinking, but parts of CT away from the coast will have lower amounts (0.50"-1.00"). That's why I used 0.50"-1.50" with some locally higher amounts for the general NYC area. On the other hand, the NBE has grown wetter with amounts near 1.70" in and around NYC. 18z in general seemed pretty wet to me, looks like 2”+ for most especially I-80 and S on the RGEM, NAM. In any event looks like a nasty 48hr period upcoming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted 11 hours ago Author Share Posted 11 hours ago Regular Nam is basically totally dry tomorrow (probably wrong) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ForestHillWx Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago Precip is having a hard time pushing north/east at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhiEaglesfan712 Posted 10 hours ago Share Posted 10 hours ago 10 hours ago, MANDA said: Thanks for the stats! So a small one site sample shows: - 40 years since the last monthly record low. - 92 years since a monthly record low during meteorological winter. Since 1998 5 monthly record warm readings but none of those during meteorological summer all were during meteorological winter. Of course NYC temperatures during the summer are skewed low since equipment was moved from out in the open to the middle of a thicket. Hard to envision a monthly record low in NYC until the next climate shift to cooler occurs from whatever the cause of that may be. Volcanic? Next natural climate shift? Something more drastic? Yeah, the fact that no monthly record low was set in the post-Pinatubo years (1992-1996) makes me believe it's never going to happen again. Global temperatures have jumped so much in the last 30 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 7 hours ago Share Posted 7 hours ago 4 hours ago, Stormlover74 said: Regular Nam is basically totally dry tomorrow (probably wrong) Looks like steady rain Saturday into Sunday morning with showers after that and then more steady rain Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowlover11 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Rain breaking on on arrival Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 20 hours ago, MANDA said: @donsutherland1 or @bluewave Do either of you have any idea when the last time a monthly record low was tied or broken at any of our local climo sites? The closest that we got in the 2020s at a station with a long enough period of record to a monthly record low was in May 2020 with the 3rd coldest monthly minimum at Newark. The last time we had a #1 coldest monthly minimum and all-time low around the area was in January 1994 in Sussex ,NJ. It’s much more common these days to have a top 5 warmest monthly max like the other day with the 100° heat away from the sea breeze. Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ - Month of May Lowest Minimum TemperatureClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1861 31 0 2 1947 33 0 - 1907 33 0 - 1855 33 0 3 2020 34 0 - 1903 34 0 - 1900 34 0 - 1874 34 0 - 1854 34 0 - 1851 34 0 4 1966 35 0 - 1943 35 0 - 1913 35 0 - 1911 35 0 - 1905 35 0 - 1891 35 30 - 1880 35 0 - 1867 35 0 5 1978 36 0 - 1939 36 0 - 1876 36 0 - 1875 36 0 - 1857 36 0 Time Series Summary for SUSSEX 1 NW, NJ - Month of Jan Lowest Monthly Minimum Temperature Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 1994 -29 4 2 1961 -25 0 3 1912 -24 3 4 1981 -22 0 - 1968 -22 1 6 1984 -21 0 Time Series Summary for HARRISON, NJ - Month of May Monthly Maximum TemperatureClick column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending. 1 2026 100 9 2 2022 96 0 - 2016 96 0 - 2013 96 0 - 1996 96 4 3 2017 95 0 - 2010 95 2 - 2007 95 0 - 2001 95 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monty Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago All models running drier at 6z and radar looks putrid. Today is not looking like a washout. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 8 minutes ago, Monty said: All models running drier at 6z and radar looks putrid. Today is not looking like a washout. but it will be damp showers and dreary i might be tempted to go out and do my walk considering rain will be light and spotty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago feeling chilly had the heat on last night wore a sweatshirt my kind of temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Latest NBE: My thinking is that most of the area will see a general 1.00"-1.50" with some locally higher amounts. The NBE has lowered the top amounts while raising the lower amounts. The 0.50" figure will be confined to locations farther from the NYC area than had been my thinking last evening. The 6z GFS, 0z GGEM and 0z AIFS are in good agreement. The 0z ECMWF became notably wetter. However, it is an outlier among the operational models. The key to achieving higher amounts, particularly those on the ECMWF, would be convective activity, possibly training thunderstorms. At present, most of the convective activity will likely take place south of the NYC region Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 58 minutes ago, nycwinter said: feeling chilly had the heat on last night wore a sweatshirt my kind of temps. I slept with the windows open 55 here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Monty said: All models running drier at 6z and radar looks putrid. Today is not looking like a washout. Euro has more rain tomorrow than today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superstorm Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago Euro has more rain tomorrow than today. And of course I was heading to Yankee stadium with my son and a couple of friends.Game cancelled.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted 58 minutes ago Share Posted 58 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, Superstorm said: And of course I was heading to Yankee stadium with my son and a couple of friends. Game cancelled. . if the game was a afternoon game no way should it have been cancelled today tomorrow game is the one that might likely get cancelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJW014 Posted 36 minutes ago Share Posted 36 minutes ago Theme for pretty much the last two years... QPF overmodeled Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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