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2 hours ago, dmillz25 said:

A west based mod niño would be good as well 

It would be great if we can finally get some help from the PDO and get the warm bath water out of the western Pacific. That should tamp down the ridiculous Pacific jet but a super Nino will just flood the continent with mild air and overwhelm any other positive trend. We’d have to hope for one huge STJ driven event like Jan 2016 or Feb 1983. 

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4 hours ago, winterwx21 said:

Yeah a weak El Nino would give us a decent chance, but unfortunately the signs point to this one being strong. I'd much rather have a La Nina like the last couple winters than a strong El Nino. 

A strong nino is likely a 3 week winter like 15-16-hopefully with a big blizzard in there

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10 hours ago, Stormchaserchuck1 said:

I don't agree that you don't want the El Nino Strong, as long as it stays west-based. Number of examples is too low, and Stronger La Nina's (opposite) correlate with big SE ridge in the Winter

2009-10 was a west-based el nino, correct? 

2010-11 is probably an exception to the strong la nina/SE ridge correlation because we got a really good winter here as well. Was there any ridge that winter?

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12 hours ago, jm1220 said:

It would be great if we can finally get some help from the PDO and get the warm bath water out of the western Pacific. That should tamp down the ridiculous Pacific jet but a super Nino will just flood the continent with mild air and overwhelm any other positive trend. We’d have to hope for one huge STJ driven event like Jan 2016 or Feb 1983. 

Def would need a -WPO to help bring down arctic air in concert with the strong STJ but who knows at this point 

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