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February Banter 2026


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33 minutes ago, Kay said:

Catching up this morning feels like...everyone chipped in and bought a custom pinata labeled "GFS', and then gathered round and beat the crap out of it :lol: (not sure what would be inside the pinata in this analogy. let's say sawdust.)

If model bashing was an Olympic sport, we’d have some serious gold medal contenders here. :lol:

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34 minutes ago, pazzo83 said:

you might be joking but.. yeah, 100%.

 

37 minutes ago, rjvanals said:

The GFS needs massive investments since it’s a national security problem being this inaccurate at such short ranges 

Putting this in banter, but it's going to be very difficult if not impossible to see sensible, sustained improvements in American NWP for the next decade or so. The current Federal climate is extremely hostile to meteorology and earth science right now. Both operational and research efforts across the country are being gleefully decimated. Meanwhile, the Euro-AI is schooling us on a weekly basis. This is the end result of years of doing lots of little things consistently well across the pond. 

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36 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said:

 

Putting this in banter, but it's going to be very difficult if not impossible to see sensible, sustained improvements in American NWP for the next decade or so. The current Federal climate is extremely hostile to meteorology and earth science right now. Both operational and research efforts across the country are being gleefully decimated. Meanwhile, the Euro-AI is schooling us on a weekly basis. This is the end result of years of doing lots of little things consistently well across the pond. 

Why do you say decade? Do you think if we get a friendlier federal climate in a couple years, that would help get things back on track sooner than that?

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3 hours ago, Maestrobjwa said:

Why do you say decade? Do you think if we get a friendlier federal climate in a couple years, that would help get things back on track sooner than that?

I am going to use as neutral of language as possible - there is a systematic, and gleeful dismantling of the atmospheric science infrastructure ongoing at the Federal level.

  • Operationally, the National Weather Service lost many positions at key field offices.
  • A short-lived Federal agency that shall remain nameless listed the building that houses the SPC/NSSL for sale. It took direct involvement from Congress to stop this. 
  • The National Science Foundation has been cut to ribbons
  • The National Center for Atmospheric Research's very existence is now being threatened. 

These changes are likely to stay in place for at least the next two years. Even if there was a dramatic shift in Federal policy starting in 2028, you cannot easily rebuild back to what we had prior to 2024 overnight. These cuts are worse than physical buildings, or personnel positions - the loss of institutional trust is enormous and is cumulative. Meanwhile, our international competitors will continue to lap the country. We are simply headed in the wrong direction and fast.

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7 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said:

I am going to use as neutral of language as possible - there is a systematic, and gleeful dismantling of the atmospheric science infrastructure ongoing at the Federal level.

  • Operationally, the National Weather Service lost many positions at key field offices.
  • A short-lived Federal agency that shall remain nameless listed the building that houses the SPC/NSSL for sale.
  • The National Science Foundation has been cut to ribbons
  • The National Center for Atmospheric Research's very existence is now being threatened. 

These changes are likely to stay in place for at least the next two years. Even if there was a dramatic shift in Federal policy starting in 2028, you cannot easily rebuild back to what we had prior to 2024 overnight. These cuts are worse than physical buildings, or personnel positions - the loss of institutional trust is enormous and is cumulative. Meanwhile, our international competitors will continue to lap the country. We are simply headed in the wrong direction and fast.

I see. Goodness gracious...that is sad and kind of infuriating. But...it's where we are and unfortunately we see the consequences playing out in real time.

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9 minutes ago, Eskimo Joe said:

I am going to use as neutral of language as possible - there is a systematic, and gleeful dismantling of the atmospheric science infrastructure ongoing at the Federal level.

  • Operationally, the National Weather Service lost many positions at key field offices.
  • A short-lived Federal agency that shall remain nameless listed the building that houses the SPC/NSSL for sale.
  • The National Science Foundation has been cut to ribbons
  • The National Center for Atmospheric Research's very existence is now being threatened. 

These changes are likely to stay in place for at least the next two years. Even if there was a dramatic shift in Federal policy starting in 2028, you cannot easily rebuild back to what we had prior to 2024 overnight. These cuts are worse than physical buildings, or personnel positions - the loss of institutional trust is enormous and is cumulative. Meanwhile, our international competitors will continue to lap the country. We are simply headed in the wrong direction and fast.

things are real bad right now - no way to sugar coat it

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I honestly think that if you could ask the GFS and Euro to write sentences and prompt it with write " see spot run in the grass" this is what they would come up with

Euro: The majestic canine frolicked across a sea of green fescue sprinkled with spring flowers

GFS: The toad farted and then was run over by a Jeep. 

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30 minutes ago, H2O said:

I honestly think that if you could ask the GFS and Euro to write sentences and prompt it with write " see spot run in the grass" this is what they would come up with

Euro: The majestic canine frolicked across a sea of green fescue sprinkled with spring flowers

GFS: The toad farted and then was run over by a Jeep. 

rotflmao    That's hilarious, albeit not far from the truth.  

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42 minutes ago, dailylurker said:

There's some Alex Jones shit going down in there :lol: Personally I think we're in a simulation run by the GFS. 

I’ve been red pilled for years down here in the tropics

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