Is we back? February discussion thread

[powderfreak]

8 hours ago, ORH_wxman said:

Stein has really infected NNE…seems worse the further north you go. 

The old “blocking leads to meh snowfall” reinforcement up north, ha.

CAR temps have been right around 0.0 departures for two months in the means too.

[UnitedWx]

A coating of FR, ZR and an interesting sprinkle of graupel on surfaces. The graupel looks like ice melt sprinkled everywhere. Roads heading to Simsbury were extremely slick

[Ginx snewx]

Freezing rain coating every thing. Didn't see take coming in this A winter. Over 10 inches depth last 30 days. February -5.6 to go with Jan -6 December-5 . Snow of 74.2 which is 16 AN for an entire year. 

[WinterWolf]

7 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Freezing rain coating every thing. Didn't see take coming in this A winter. Over 10 inches depth last 30 days. February -5.6 to go with Jan -6 December-5 . Snow of 74.2 which is 16 AN for an entire year. 

Weren’t we told not to long ago that one below normal month during winter, would be tough to do now?  I think that person went by the name of Forky…?   Where’s that poster been?  Wasn’t November below normal too? 

[Spanks45]

Icy morning, but the Spring birds are singing away... Hit 43⁰ yesterday and the sun did a number on the snow for sure, melt/compaction took at least 4 inches. Only 10-12 inch depth, with a couple inch base underneath it...

[dendrite]

37 minutes ago, WinterWolf said:

Weren’t we told not to long ago that one below normal month during winter, would be tough to do now?  I think that person went by the name of Forky…?   Where’s that poster been?  Wasn’t November below normal too? 

To be fair…we have warmer winter normals now and the region was in our own pocket of cold. But yeah, the stars aligned down there this year for a consistently cold and snowy winter, with a couple of historical events.

It’s been cold up here too, but more tame the further north you go. For a lot of NNE it’s been a meh winter.

But it’s nice to see SNE getting a fun one after a relatively crappy stretch the past few years.

[ineedsnow]

Feels like spring this morning.. actually feels good after the relentless cold this winter

[FlashFreeze]

1 hour ago, UnitedWx said:

A coating of FR, ZR and an interesting sprinkle of graupel on surfaces. The graupel looks like ice melt sprinkled everywhere. Roads heading to Simsbury were extremely slick

 Same thing here.

[Ginx snewx]

It really is like Hoth today. Everything is frozen solid

[Ginx snewx]

Just now, Ginx snewx said:

It really is like Hoth today. Everything is frozen solid

 

[Typhoon Tip]

47 minutes ago, dendrite said:

To be fair…we have warmer winter normals now and the region was in our own pocket of cold. But yeah, the stars aligned down there this year for a consistently cold and snowy winter, with a couple of historical events.

It’s been cold up here too, but more tame the further north you go. For a lot of NNE it’s been a meh winter.

But it’s nice to see SNE getting a fun one after a relatively crappy stretch the past few years.

It was two storms ...otherwise, the same plight as y'all up there.

Just two -

I maintain my philosophical approach to this winter, that both are true.  We were cold enough, most of the time.. We had snow on ground, most of the time, but, the winter under performed, relative to those environmental verifying circumstances - particularly the cold enough aspect. 

Know one's asking, but I feel pretty strongly that the pattern(s) required to sustain the cold, is the culprit for only two storms...otherwise, suppression reigns.   I would be willing to venture the idea that any cold patterns are intrinsically limiting organized storm success.  Basically ...the two we got punched through the limitations by other means - and I know what those were in each case.   

People of this particular social media engagement definitely don't want THIS explanation for why cold patterns are limiting snow.  The background warming world is causing enhanced gradient, whenever the jets dip.  This leads to anomalously fast basal flow velocities in the geostrophic ambiance. 

It's a limiting factor.  It's not a preclusive factor.  Speed in the flow, out side of S/W spaces, lowers the absolute value of the d(vorticity) in the means.  Lower d(PVA) results. What remains doesn't have enough time to trigger all the necessary cyclone cross section responses, before the disturbance has moved off any given region,

The Jan 25 overrunning on 'roids was a planetary correction event. It was really the only successful MJO wave signature penetrating as far east as the Americas I've seen since ... a long while actually.  The wholesale lower latitude mass fields surged N with an actual STJ response, and ran headlong into an imposing polar index scenario, on-going.  At those scales, speed's easily overcome. It's there, but the whole thing isn't needing jet responses in a cyclone machinery/necessity... It was a flop over isentropic lift event, at very very large scale. 

This recent blizzard actually saddled into a temporal window whence the flow relaxed.  I noticed this the week prior to the event, that the GFS was bulging the PNA heights out west toward the E, and the heights over the Gulf o Mex were 4-6 dm lower in that window, the preset velocities 30 to 35kt at mid levels.   That's a receptive environment and when the trough arrived it was able to mechanize a bomb. 

[Ginx snewx]

Just now, Ginx snewx said:

 

 

[Damage In Tolland]

24 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

Feels like spring this morning.. actually feels good after the relentless cold this winter

You’re getting older . Dews are your friend. You’ll see 

[Digityman]

11 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Jordan free furniture lol St John's 2 for 22 2nd half 

My family bought two couches from Jordans.....
AI says the chances are between 2-6%

[ineedsnow]

7 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

You’re getting older . Dews are your friend. You’ll see 

I'll never ever like dews unless there's a big rare severe threat  

[Ginx snewx]

35 minutes ago, ineedsnow said:

Feels like spring this morning.. actually feels good after the relentless cold this winter

27⁰ ice palace not exactly my kind of spring 

[Ginx snewx]

Regarding Tips post. I can not think of a winter that didn't have missed opportunities ,including the monster 96 1t5 years 

[WinterWolf]

39 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

Regarding Tips post. I can not think of a winter that didn't have missed opportunities ,including the monster 96 1t5 years 

Yes sir.  They all do…it’s always been that way.  If we cashed in on all the misses this year…it’s a record breaker. That’s why record breakers are so rare.  But even If we don’t get another flake this winter…it’s been an excellent winter season in every aspect imo.  Sure, Things can always be better(wish we here maximized the blizzard-oh well)…but zero complaints overall.
 

If we pick up some more snow(picked up almost 3 more inches yesterday morning)…then it’s even better.  

[dendrite]

31.7° with flurries. Very little sun so far today. 

[Typhoon Tip]

3 minutes ago, dendrite said:

31.7° with flurries. Very little sun so far today. 

no kidding. 

100% of possible so far down here.  

MET MOS  41.  Noooormally I'd suggest at this time of year we add the perfunctory tick or two to the high, but with all this white shit underneath ...  

DPs are low so melt will be slow but the sun will breach that critical angle for maybe 1.5 hrs at zenith this time of year, and that becomes more of a direct melt assault for that time span.   Probably a lot of dripping and some street gutter brooks at that time.

I'm ready...  I could use a 55/48 overnight rainer to really eat this shit down.  We'll cross the flooded bridge if/when that happens. 

[RUNNAWAYICEBERG]

2 hours ago, ineedsnow said:

I'll never ever like dews unless there's a big rare severe threat  

Yea. Eff dews. I like warmth but not dew warmth. 

[CoastalWx]

Feels like spring here not Hoth. Strong sun, melting snow, birds chirping. Window cracked in car. 

[CoastalWx]

2 hours ago, ineedsnow said:

Feels like spring this morning.. actually feels good after the relentless cold this winter

Yep. Just Ginxy left thinking it’s January in Fairbanks. 

[ORH_wxman]

Mid-30s during mid-morning definitely feels like spring in New England....the snow pack this deep does not.