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Extreme Cold, Snow & Sleet: SECS 1/24 - 1/26


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1 minute ago, Bxstormwatcher360 said:

Im sticking to 10+ inches for the bronx. fieldston,riverdale, kingsbridge and norwood get a wee bit more.

I think 10 is reasonable for the Bronx especially the north Bronx. Wouldn't be shocked if the 1 foot line was near the Westchester/Bronx border in the scenario where things go well. 

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6 minutes ago, Bxstormwatcher360 said:

A 20 to 40 mile jog se is still possible. Things are trending better as the models finally pick up the cold suppression. All layers can warm up but against a solid cold dome,its gonna be tough going warming up any level ..925,700,850 for my location atleast doesn't reach 32f/0c.

I mean yea it's possible it shifts SE but just because it's cold doesn't mean we can't get sleet and your location will likely see this per nearly every model. The big question is timing and how hard the front end thump is. 

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Just now, Winterweatherlover said:

I think 10 is reasonable for the Bronx especially the north Bronx. Wouldn't be shocked if the 1 foot line was near the Westchester/Bronx border in the scenarios where things go well. 

Yep all areas mentioned are part of the nw bronx. Cooler areas with coastal elevation involved. We change last in every borderline storm.:lol:

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Loving my 6-10" call from a few days ago. Obviously areas not far north will have more but looking good right now 

I like 8-12 now with the most recent ticks south.


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27 minutes ago, sussexcountyobs said:

Ok. Thanks. A Vernon, NJ sounding would be awesome! I don't know how to do it. Lol.

Use pivotal.  You can just click on the map where you're located.   

https://www.pivotalweather.com/model.php?m=nam&p=ref1km_ptype&rh=2026012418&fh=3&r=us_ne&dpdt=&mc=

 

Also, here's a sounding. I think I clicked closer to High Point.

 

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3 minutes ago, Bxstormwatcher360 said:

Yep all areas mentioned are part of the nw bronx. Cooler areas with coastal elevation involved. We change last in every borderline storm.:lol:

I'm in southern tip of Yonkers so I'm pretty familiar with the NW Bronx, def more hilly and less urban than most of the city. The biggest difference is in marginal temp surface events, since this is upper levels I don't know how much it helps but having a little extra latitude should help in this setup. 

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4 hours ago, donsutherland1 said:

The RGEM is late. Again.

Right now, taking into consideration the early 12z guidance, my thinking is that a reasonable worst-case (least snowy) outcome for New York City is 5" (no real change from previous thinking). A reasonable best case is 12" (down 2" from previous thinking). For now, I'm still thinking that a 6"-12" range for storm total snow and sleet captures the most likely scenarios.  Well north and west of the City, 12"-18" still appears likely. Areas south and east of the City and its nearby suburbs down to the central Jersey Shore and on eastern Long Island are in line for 4"-8". 

As a note, I am not fixated on any single model. My thinking takes into consideration the full range. No model has been dismissed at this time. Moreover, 100% of individual EPS members had a 6" or greater snowfall. I do think that the 12z HRRR was too snowy for New York City, but we'll see what the later guidance shows. By 18z and especially 0z, differences among the various models should narrow dramatically. 

All in all, this will still be New York City's biggest snowstorm in nearly four or perhaps five years. Personally, given the long snow drought, including the record 1,456 consecutive days without a 4" or greater daily snowfall (that includes today), I'll gladly accept the outcome that appears likely. Of course, I appreciate even the smaller events.

Much needed with the long snow drought. I found this out PSU's Weather World interesting:

You can really see how rough it's been around State College as well lately:

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Right now the model consensus has the dividing line between big snows and more modest snow accumulations plus sleet from extreme northern Morris County through northern Passaic, Rockland, northern Westchester, and northern Fairfield. Right now I would take the under on double digit amounts south of this line. Hopefully the last two model runs and then nowcasting shift that line south a bit.

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2 minutes ago, eduggs said:

Right now the model consensus has the dividing line between big snows and more modest snow accumulations plus sleet from extreme northern Morris County through northern Passaic, Rockland, northern Westchester, and northern Fairfield. Right now I would take the under on double digit amounts south of this line. Hopefully the last two model runs and then nowcasting shift that line south a bit.

Shocking that it's pretty much the I287 corridor........ at least in NJ and NYS

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7 minutes ago, TheClimateChanger said:

Much needed with the long snow drought. I found this out PSU's Weather World interesting:

You can really see how rough it's been around State College as well lately:

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Winters for the last 20 years in Central PA have by and large been horrendous. I’m glad that most of that region should do well tomorrow but the long term average for State College, Altoona, Williamsport etc is over 40” snow per winter. They’ve been able to manage that in their few high end winters in the last 20 years but by and large way below that. Way too many SWFE’s that turn into sleetfests, cutters or Miller Bs that develop too late, much fewer Miller A coastal huggers like 3/1993 or storms that would redevelop offshore in time-now these are good I-90 snowmakers not I-80. It started right when I went to school there and never really improved. So I’d say there’s definitely some long term shift that’s screwed them over and not some short term correction that will easily reverse. 

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