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First Legit Storm Potential of the Season Upon Us


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20 minutes ago, WeatherGeek2025 said:

well that's a win

slight bump NW

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13 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

You hope maybe we trend into a compromise of sorts and get at least something half-decent out of this. The 12z blizzard was a pipe dream given it had zero support. 

Besides a few GEFS members, no. AIGEFS also had a few members with bigs hits, but thats about it

I'm fine with that run it actually didnt move east at all really, just weaker dynamics and didn't explode like 12Z

Still 4-8 across most of CT/MA

 

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7 minutes ago, The 4 Seasons said:

This is still the one to watch for a poss moderate-low end warning event region wide.

Maybe we can grab an inch or two on Saturday but the potential ceiling for that is extremely low. And sfc temps are very borderline in areas along the shore. 

Agree. Would like to see the 18z Euro and especially EPS step in the right direction.

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A reason I think you'll have a better chance with this thread, Ray ...is the error trends as of late considering all guidance.  If that correction recurs, we're in business on this one.  

This event tomorrow into Friday morning, upstate NY up the ST L S was actually the original system that even the Euro was impressive for several ( not a couple :lol: ) cycles about 4 or so days ago...  The Euro did not really do terribly better than the GFS - I don't know if folks are aware that the system in U NY is in fact the 15/16 cyclone space. 

Anyway, all these guidance were not wrong about the storm 'existing' - as we discussed earlier.  The recognition of the pattern amplitude by many of us was actually spot on. Where the system takes place is the devil in this case, but ... it was actually en masse a reposition to the current strike region as outline above. 

It seems that's been a leitmotif this season from my recall where systems have been correcting west.  While certainly true that we must consider every situation uniquely, there's certainly also wisdom in noticing whether the circumstances have changed appreciably so - if not... it's reasonable to assume that this Euro track will correct west in time.  

Having said all that ...  we still are dealing with wave harmonics issues in lacking. The neg interference in the general circulation circumstance is only allowing narrow windows for amplitude at the cyclone/S/W scales.  But as this one today up N of ALB is showing, they're still occurring nonetheless.  

We have a shot in this case...

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25 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Advisory event on the gfs for Eastern areas. Mega step back, as many expected. Now does that continue or do others come west 

Actually more like a lower end warning event verbatim.  It actually was not THAT different vs 12z in terms of dynamics leading in.

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the AIGFS did not actually adjust NW from what I'm seeing.  It was just a little stronger in the cyclonic envelope and by virtue of that slight increase ... expanded by a small margin around all quadrants.  This may have given the allusion to a NW adjustment.  

I guess tho that's kind of quibbling ...  I mean, if it ended up at 978 mb, it will have expanded it's impact radius that much more and I don't think it really matters sensibly - if you're in, you're in

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Fwiw, the GEFs has bodily moved west, by several grid points actually.  Even has a fair number of middling depth members straddling the BM.

12z left, 18 right

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Probably should also add... sense of this is a middle ranged cyclone ... a correcting west track has possibility, but the sub 980 idea of the GFS probably doesn't pass the middle range amplitude dimming aspect.  

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