Ice Ice Baby December 28-29 Storm Discussion

[CoastalWx]

Just now, WxWatcher007 said:

This storm sucked for us, but was a big dog for a good part of the country. Miss the days when we were included in the fun. 

Yeah, everything amplifies except for us lol.

[VivaManchVegas]

2 hours ago, dendrite said:

So latent heating works both ways. Everything trying to melt now is acting to help cool the air. I always think of it as like a conservation of thermal energy. The ice is trying to go to a higher energy state now (solid to liquid) so it needs to gain heat for the phase change…hence it’s “taking” it from the air around it.

That’s why we tend to rot at 32° so often or frequently see isothermal 0°C layers aloft. So even though the diabatic heating quickly warmed us up to 32°, the melting now is trying to help us stay there. So we’ll see how long the wedge can hold now before the cold fropa blows through later. 

I have been bouncing between 32.5 and 32.9 since i got up 4 hours ago. 

[VivaManchVegas]

27 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

It will be shotgun blasts tonight 

The '98 ice storm was incredible.  I remember driving up from Manchester to visit my parents in the Wolfeboro area on that Saturday.  It was the first day it would get above freezing and from their back deck all you heard many trees cracking as the ice softened.  The Ice acted like a support structure, until it didn't.   

[dendrite]

7 minutes ago, CoastalWx said:

Yeah, everything amplifies except for us lol.

If you don’t like the weather in New England just wait 5 months. 

[dendrite]

6 minutes ago, VivaManchVegas said:

The '98 ice storm was incredible.  I remember driving up from Manchester to visit my parents in the Wolfeboro area on that Saturday.  It was the first day it would get above freezing and from their back deck all you heard many trees cracking as the ice softened.  The Ice acted like a support structure, until it didn't.   

I drove up to Lyndon with my father during it to work on my shitbox 87 Cavalier that died in the LSC parking lot before break. I remember the Lakes Region looking like a disaster area from 93…mostly from about here through the woodstock area. We gradually lost ice through the notch until it looked like mostly just wet trees on the other side toward Cannon. 

[Baroclinic Zone]

15 minutes ago, dendrite said:

If you don’t like the weather in New England just wait 5 months. 

May 1st, “severe” weather season. 

[Damage In Tolland]

29 minutes ago, VivaManchVegas said:

The '98 ice storm was incredible.  I remember driving up from Manchester to visit my parents in the Wolfeboro area on that Saturday.  It was the first day it would get above freezing and from their back deck all you heard many trees cracking as the ice softened.  The Ice acted like a support structure, until it didn't.   

Wish I could have lived thru that. Hope to see one in my lifetime 

[codfishsnowman]

Very icy start here but no just water everywhere.....what a nightmare the refreeze will be for many folks...old man winter may be in rehab drying out but man he has a cold first week planned for us....brrrrr

[VivaManchVegas]

GYX just updated our high temps, down a few degrees and realigned with current temperature readings.  The last update had us a 39 degrees at this time period.  High was supposed to be 41. 

 

Now calling for snow showers this afternoon.  Thats new. 

 

[VivaManchVegas]

13 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said:

Wish I could have lived thru that. Hope to see one in my lifetime 

If you have a generator and a wood stove, its all fun and games. I would hate to go through it with out the right tools. 

[rimetree]

Up to 41F here this morning and now leveled off around 37-38F with 0.63" of rain so far. Still some coverage in the yard that will likely just turn into a skating rink tonight.

[Layman]

3 minutes ago, rimetree said:

Up to 41F here this morning and now leveled off around 37-38F with 0.63" of rain so far. Still some coverage in the yard that will likely just turn into a skating rink tonight.

Just got back from Newington where it was 38 and lots of melting.  At home, we can't seem to crest 34.  Heading out shortly to shovel what I can because like you said, this is all going to lock up for the next few days!

[lurker]

Power outage map shows the icing extent:

[ineedsnow]

Snow is holding up atleast for now

[DavisStraight]

43 minutes ago, codfishsnowman said:

Very icy start here but no just water everywhere.....what a nightmare the refreeze will be for many folks...old man winter may be in rehab drying out but man he has a cold first week planned for us....brrrrr

I'd rather lose the whole pack rather than have my yard turned into a skating rink. If what I have left freezes im gonna break my neck one day this week.

[TauntonBlizzard2013]

Snow is wiped outside of bigger piles here.

[lurker]

Only the dirt roads are suffering around here, otherwise paved roads are passable and power is on:

Few miles SW of CON @ 500ft

[NoCORH4L]

Can't believe after all this crazy cold since gobble gobble, we end up with only 2 rat rainers to show for it.  When it's actually needed, the cold this season has been retreating faster then the French.

[Damage In Tolland]

18 minutes ago, lurker said:

Only the dirt roads are suffering around here, otherwise paved roads are passable and power is on:

Few miles SW of CON @ 500ft

Damnit 

[Cold Miser]

17 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Snow is wiped outside of bigger piles here.

Still snow on the ground here, but I expect it to dissapear in a timely manner...right when the rain stops. 

The timing seems to work out that way 9/10 times.  It's like the rain is scheduled to stick around long enough to wipe out the snow. Then it freezes up the brown ground again. 

[Roger Smith]

A century ago the phrase "silver thaw" was used to describe the conditions being reported in n NE today. I am not sure when that went out of the vocabulary but it was even inserted into official documents of weather data in the 1920s and earlier. 

[ineedsnow]

High wind warning here now

. Hopefully get some damage

[metagraphica]

45/44 and this rain ain't gonna get it done.  The pack is shrinking but I don't think it's going to disappear.  Should still have some left over once this is all said and done.

[dryslot]

RN, 33/32°F, The pack lives on.

[WxWatcher007]

Meanwhile in Michigan. Would people pass on a blizzard if it did this? 

 

[ineedsnow]

3 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Meanwhile in Michigan. Would people pass on a blizzard if it did this? 

 

Wet snow stuck to trees then big gust came in? Thats awesome! 

[mahk_webstah]

Well, this is certainly not been a top level ice storm, but I would also say it’s a little bit higher than run-of-the-mill. There’s still slush on the roads, which I thought would’ve been gone by now and the trees have a pretty thick cover similar to that picture that lurker contributed. No significant loss to the snowpack just compressed and full of water. Looking at the forecast, we may not see this snow again until March once we get a couple of inches on top of it. 32° on the nose here.

[DavisStraight]

21 minutes ago, metagraphica said:

45/44 and this rain ain't gonna get it done.  The pack is shrinking but I don't think it's going to disappear.  Should still have some left over once this is all said and done.

Its gonna turn to ice if enough of it sticks around.

[Cold Miser]

22 minutes ago, WxWatcher007 said:

Meanwhile in Michigan. Would people pass on a blizzard if it did this? 

 

Depends on how much snow falls (fell).  Blizzards don't always translate to monster amounts of snow, so yeah, keep the wind and give me a monster accumulating snow storm.  

[WxWatcher007]

Heading back to the icebox. Down to 32.6 after hitting 40.5° at 9am. Snowing here now.