October Banter 2025

[Maestrobjwa]

2 hours ago, H2O said:

Someone getting fired this week. They will start with the D coordinator 

You may be underestimating Harbaugh's innate resistance to making a coaching change. He gets dug in sometimes (i.e. Greg Roman). So who knows, smh

[RickinBaltimore]

Harbaugh and the coaching staff into the damn sun. 

[CAPE]

Again, the path we are on here is Coughlin and the Giants. He won 2 SBs. It got stale. The fans were restless and saw the need for change. Clamoring for it. Same as we are now. The front office sat on its hands. It got worse. 3 straight losing seasons- they still didn't fire him! He fucking resigned.

[Maestrobjwa]

34 minutes ago, CAPE said:

Again, the path we are on here is Coughlin and the Giants. He won 2 SBs. It got stale. The fans were restless and saw the need for change. Clamoring for it. Same as we are now. The front office sat on its hands. It got worse. 3 straight losing seasons- they still didn't fire him! He fucking resigned.

I really don't think it's gonna get that far (that is 3 straight losing seasons). Biscotti got rid of Billick even after giving him an extension ahead of the awful 2007 season...so we can't say definitively what he's gonna do this time. This is the first year in the Lamar era that we've struggled in the regular season like this and where the coaching issues are reaching an untenable level.

[CAPE]

14 minutes ago, Maestrobjwa said:

I really don't think it's gonna get that far (that is 3 straight losing seasons). Biscotti got rid of Billick even after giving him an extension ahead of the awful 2007 season...so we can't say definitively what he's gonna do this time. This is the first year in the Lamar era that we've struggled in the regular season like this and where the coaching issues are reaching an untenable level.

Yeah but is has been stale under Harbaugh for awhile. While they have won a lot in the regular season- they have been front runners that blow teams out while often losing the closely contested games, with a good chunk of those being leads blown late. On top of that they underachieve in the postseason. Just saying, don't let it get to the point where changes aren't made until its too late- i.e. multiple losing seasons. Despite the injuries, this team should NOT be 1-5 at this point. Something is seriously lacking.

[Maestrobjwa]

47 minutes ago, CAPE said:

Yeah but is has been stale under Harbaugh for awhile. While they have won a lot in the regular season- they have been front runners that blow teams out while often losing the closely contested games, with a good chunk of those being leads blown late. On top of that they underachieve in the postseason. Just saying, don't let it get to the point where changes aren't made until its too late- i.e. multiple losing seasons. Despite the injuries, this team should NOT be 1-5 at this point. Something is seriously lacking.

Yeah I don't think they're gonna let that happen--we're not at the "too late" point. Moving on from Harbaugh this season still leaves some of Lamar's prime left! See it's different this year...and the wheels have legit fallen almost all the way off. Even if Lamar comes back and saves the day again and we somehow back into the playoffs...there's no erasing the stench of what's happened so far. You can cover up a lot when you win the division and make the playoffs...but once crap happens in the regular season too? No kidding it. That's another reason why I think this is gonna be Harbaugh's last season. It is becoming painfully clear that coaching is at the heart of the problem here.

[Jebman]

Might want to check this out!!! https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/storm-tracker

Some places high up in the Mammoth Ski area may get two, maybe close to three feet of wet snow tomorrow night!

This particular webstream is gonna be LIT tomorrow night as torrential snow smashes into the Main Lodge!!!!

Main Lodge https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/main-lodge

Woolly Cam's another good one! https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/woolly-cam

Trust me I should KNOW, after three seasons!!!!

 

This ain't just only The Beginning of the season.

IT'S EARLY!!!!!!!!!! We just getting started!!!!

Let's Get It Started.

 

[Jebman]

ALEET! ALEET!

Mt Bachelor has picked up their very first 4 inches from the ground up, in the past 24 hours!!!!!!!

 

[WolfStock1]

Hi all - got a couple of questions if I may.   I tried posting this one thing in the Meteorology 101 section but it seems like no one pays attention there, so figured I'd try here.

My son's looking to go into meteorology, and I was wondering about a couple of things.   

First - since we live in VA, he was looking to most likely do the program at VT for meteorology.   What are folks' thoughts on that program vs other ones around the east?   It seems pretty good (we just visited), but it sounds like there are other ones around that may be as good or better - e.g. PSU, UMd, FSU.   Rankings are all over the place, so not reliable at all.  

One disadvantage is that the VT program is only undergrad.   We were wondering how much that might matter though - if desired he could do undergrad at VT and graduate school at one of the others.   Also it seems like most meteorology careers don't require graduate degree - fair to say?

Cost of course is a consideration, and a big driver towards VT - getting in-state tuition.

Other question I had in the other thread is about AI and about the impact of NOAA cuts.   Thoughts?

(below is link to the thread)

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

[MN Transplant]

1 hour ago, WolfStock1 said:

Hi all - got a couple of questions if I may.   I tried posting this one thing in the Meteorology 101 section but it seems like no one pays attention there, so figured I'd try here.

My son's looking to go into meteorology, and I was wondering about a couple of things.   

First - since we live in VA, he was looking to most likely do the program at VT for meteorology.   What are folks' thoughts on that program vs other ones around the east?   It seems pretty good (we just visited), but it sounds like there are other ones around that may be as good or better - e.g. PSU, UMd, FSU.   Rankings are all over the place, so not reliable at all.  

One disadvantage is that the VT program is only undergrad.   We were wondering how much that might matter though - if desired he could do undergrad at VT and graduate school at one of the others.   Also it seems like most meteorology careers don't require graduate degree - fair to say?

Cost of course is a consideration, and a big driver towards VT - getting in-state tuition.

Other question I had in the other thread is about AI and about the impact of NOAA cuts.   Thoughts?

(below is link to the thread)

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

VT is a relatively small program compared to the others that you've listed, but that isn't necessarily a problem.  I don't feel like meteorology has the same "ranking" hierarchy like law schools or business schools do.  It is more about what skills you can develop.  One thing to recognize is that meteorology has a very high "quit" ratio.  A lot of students are attracted to it for all the same reasons why we are on this board, but the math and physics weeds out a lot of them, so it is always good to keep your options open.  And with the job market the way it is and AI looming, the best candidates for jobs in the future in meteorology are probably going to be people that have diversified in some way.  So, things like computing/AI, emergency management, energy, transportation, etc.  The days of just getting a standard meteorology Bachelor's degree and then getting hired right away by the NWS or media is not dead, but a dwindling path.  

[Jebman]

6 hours ago, MN Transplant said:

VT is a relatively small program compared to the others that you've listed, but that isn't necessarily a problem.  I don't feel like meteorology has the same "ranking" hierarchy like law schools or business schools do.  It is more about what skills you can develop.  One thing to recognize is that meteorology has a very high "quit" ratio.  A lot of students are attracted to it for all the same reasons why we are on this board, but the math and physics weeds out a lot of them, so it is always good to keep your options open.  And with the job market the way it is and AI looming, the best candidates for jobs in the future in meteorology are probably going to be people that have diversified in some way.  So, things like computing/AI, emergency management, energy, transportation, etc.  The days of just getting a standard meteorology Bachelor's degree and then getting hired right away by the NWS or media is not dead, but a dwindling path.  

It's kind of like being a car mechanic. people always need to get their car fixed. There's always gonnabe bad weather, and people gotta know about the weather. Plus you have big companies who's bottom line gets impacted in a big way by weather. AI is going to be HUGE HUGE HUGE!!!! The economy is going to go totally non linear by Q4 2026. Go after that meteorology!!! You just might end up in some snow enthusiasts' dream place like the Great Lakes snow belts or even near some of the western ski resorts. Or even in BOS which gets every last blizzard every year. They almost NEVER get skunked and they have never even heard of Lucy.

[nj2va]

17 hours ago, Jebman said:

Might want to check this out!!! https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/storm-tracker

Some places high up in the Mammoth Ski area may get two, maybe close to three feet of wet snow tomorrow night!

This particular webstream is gonna be LIT tomorrow night as torrential snow smashes into the Main Lodge!!!!

Main Lodge https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/main-lodge

Woolly Cam's another good one! https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/woolly-cam

Trust me I should KNOW, after three seasons!!!!

 

This ain't just only The Beginning of the season.

IT'S EARLY!!!!!!!!!! We just getting started!!!!

Let's Get It Started.

 

Snowing there now on the cams Jebman

[ravensrule]

46 minutes ago, nj2va said:

Snowing there now on the cams Jebman

Now you’re going to make him do something naughty. 

[Jebman]

2 hours ago, ravensrule said:

Now you’re going to make him do something naughty. 

I am gonna go up there and run nekkid in the deepening snow. It's truly liberating.

[Jebman]

4 hours ago, nj2va said:

Snowing there now on the cams Jebman

Been watchin it all day. Be nice to have an early start to the ski season.

Temps have fallen to 27, the skies are lowering really dark, the wind is up and preconsolidation is starting on the roads and pavement. That stuff is starting to get heavy! Wind is gusting to 47!

 

 

I am beginning to update to 2020s tracks but I gotta watch out for some of these videos, some of them are so divisive. I have had about enough of maga. sorry guys about that video, I took it right off. Had to delete the post to get rid of that EMBARRASSING vid. Billions of apologies.

Just blast ELO and think of me jebwalking against the 40 mph NE winds and heavy wet snow in Mammoth, lol. And lovingly digging massive amounts of snow back when I still could, lmao.

 

Roads in Mammoth are caving at 27 degrees and moderate to heavy snow!

https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/woolly-cam

[Chris78]

Meh. Crappy first half by the commanders 

[Chris78]

Just stupidity on the Commanders

Don't have the it factor this year

[Jebman]

Well I am watching all the pixie dust at Mammoth and thinking about how Lucy nudged the track of the PacNW Low just enough to leave poor Mammoth with only a couple of inches.

We still got the rest of the winter. I just hope the winter does NOT remember October, though. Because if it does, Mammoth will be very GRAY this low sun season. People will be smashing up their skis on rocks and stuff in catastrophic low tide conditions in the slushy muddy snow.

 

I am sick with disappointment and howling with despair. I know its a nina winter and there will likely be meager snow everywhere except Boston. Man I might already need to be reaped lmao!

Imagine that, y'all. Jebman the very FIRST to get REAPED in the 2025-2026 Snow Season. In frackin' October!

I feel nothing but black unrelenting despair. I think the Reaper is going to have to don his Garment of Reaping and enter our accursed Realm soon, very soon.

I might end up going all Ji on y'allz.

[WolfStock1]

21 hours ago, MN Transplant said:

VT is a relatively small program compared to the others that you've listed, but that isn't necessarily a problem.  I don't feel like meteorology has the same "ranking" hierarchy like law schools or business schools do.  It is more about what skills you can develop.  One thing to recognize is that meteorology has a very high "quit" ratio.  A lot of students are attracted to it for all the same reasons why we are on this board, but the math and physics weeds out a lot of them, so it is always good to keep your options open.  And with the job market the way it is and AI looming, the best candidates for jobs in the future in meteorology are probably going to be people that have diversified in some way.  So, things like computing/AI, emergency management, energy, transportation, etc.  The days of just getting a standard meteorology Bachelor's degree and then getting hired right away by the NWS or media is not dead, but a dwindling path.  

 

Thanks.

Yes definitely seems like having a "big picture" education is important.   It is interesting the variety of companies that hire meteorologists.   

 

[nw baltimore wx]

For any aviation nerds, or just a nerd in general, this link was on the CoCoRaHS website this morning.  They made a point of saying that there were a lot of commercial breaks, but I used the Duck player embedded in the Duck Duck Go browser and had no interruptions.  Some pretty cool stuff!

 

[Jebman]

Palisades Tahoe is currently experiencing heavy snow and blowing snow https://www.palisadestahoe.com/mountain-information/webcams

Mammoth was very heavy but is lighter, looks to be about 7-12 on the ground at Main Lodge and Woolly Cam. McCoy Station earlier in the daytime, they really got slammed HARD, they are at 10000 feet and may have well over a foot of snow and still snowing hard up there!

Nice early season snow! This is early for them, we are talking at least a foot of fresh snow on the slopes. Should be a good base to blow more artificial snow on top of and get them open really early! Mammoth just invested in better snowmaking equipment! More snow coming in a few more days!

Woolly Cam https://www.mammothmountain.com/on-the-mountain/mammoth-webcam/woolly-cam You can see ripples on the snow caused by strong winds blowing it all over! We're getting this started REALLY EARLY!!!!

[RDM]

13 hours ago, Weather Will said:

Here you go....-both maps were accurate for me. Took me hours to drive between College Park and Greenbelt. Cars abandoned everywhere.  It snowed 3-4 inches an hour with drifts over 2 feet.  And it was not forecasted. Mom was freaking out since there were no cell phones back then...

National Weather Service

 

@NWS

 

#OTD in 1987, a snowstorm hit the Washington, D.C. area, with up to 17" of snow and stranding cars for nearly 24 hours. The event led to the development of the Washington Metropolitan Area Snow Plan to facilitate preparedness and response. https://weather.gov/lwx/winter_DC-Winters #NWS150

 

November 11, 1987: The Veteran's Day Storm will not be forgotten by many Washington travelers. Almost a foot (11.5 inches) fell at National Airport. Prince Georges County, MD was hard hit with up to 13 inches of snow falling in a short amount of time. It caught motorists off guard and stranded cars on the Capitol Beltway. There were so many cars that snow plows could not get through to open the clogged arteries. Cars littered the roadway for more than 24 hours. The event precipitated the development of the Washington Metropolitan Area Snow Plan to facilitate preparedness and response to future storms.

This storm struck before the days of lightning detection networks and Doppler weather radar. When thunderstorms began dumping heavy snow over the Fredericksburg VA, forecasters had no idea. The storm moved northeast across the southern Metropolitan area (Prince Georges County). It was not until the fast accumulating snow hit Camp Springs, where at the time the Weather Forecast Office was located, did forecasters realize what was happening.

 

Moving to Banter... 

Remember that snow well.  Lived in Lorton at the time at the intersection of Rt-1 and Pohick Rd.  Had a class downtown DC that week.  The forecast in the morning was for a dusting or very light snow, or so.  My colleague from Woodbridge and I drove to the class together in his Isuzu Trooper.  Having experienced surprise events in DC before we threw in some foul weather gear and a long chain and tow strap (we joked about going overboard at the time).  Got to class in DC on 23rd street across between the Kenndy Center and west entrance to Dept of State HQs w/o any issues.  

Snow started mid-morning.  By 11 it was puking fatties.  USG closed soon thereafter.  We made the mistake of pulling a few people out of the parking lot at the facility we were at on and that cost us precious time getting across the Potomac.

Took about 3 hours to get to and through old town Alexandria.  The roads around the Pentagon quickly became gridlocked on the major arteries and side streets.  The news that night said there were 800+ cars abandoned just IVO of the Pentagon.  Channel 4 showed video clips of commuters in dress clothes walking on 395 in both directions.  

After we got through Old Town things moved decently on the Mt. Vernon pkwy until about a half mile from Mt. Vernon.  Two large pines fell across the Pkwy just in front of us which closed the Pkwy in both directions travel (it was a very heavy snow).  We drove to the front of the stalled traffic with the Trooper and hooked up the chain to one of the pines near the top, which was out in the middle of the Pkwy.  Used the length of the tree as a lever arm to pivot the tree around.  Of course, w/o any weight we lacked traction to do much, even in 4-low with the center diff locked.  Only moved it a few feet initially.  So, we commandeered drivers from other cars for weight.  We had people in the back seat, in the rear luggage compartment, hanging on the doors, sitting on the hood, sitting on top of each other - about anyplace they could get weight on the Trooper.  It was like the car stuffing competitions they used to do in the 60's.  Think we counted 13 plus the 2 of us, which was probably 3000+ lbs of dead weight.  That did the trick.

We pulled both the trees around on a pivot enough to get one lane open in both directions.  It was a great example of what can be done with a little know-how and some willing cooperation to prevail amidst a desperate situation...   Will never forget the cheer from all the drivers when we opened the road again.  There was zero help from local authorities.  It was also interesting to see the types of people around.  Those who were willing and eager to help, and those who just stood by and did nothing but watch.  Would not lift a hand but kept complaining about the situation.  We didn't just admire the problem - we did something about it!  but the ordeal was long from over.

We got on route 1 southbound by Ft. Belvoir.  Stood still for 30 mins w/o moving.  Turned around and drove back to Ft. Belvoir, drove through the base and got to Backlick Road Northbound (before the FFCO Pkwy was extended to route 1) and managed to get to I-95 Southbound.  Traffic was moving, but at a crawl.  The snow was still pounding. 

We crawled Southbound on 95 until we got to the Pohick Road overpass above I-95.  I bid by colleague farewell, got out of the Trooper and climbed over the fence along the side of the I-95 right of way.  Climbed up the hill to Pohick Road, which was not easy to do even with boots on.  When I got on Pohick I looked back to see about 15 other people doing the same thing, some in wingtips and women in heels.  Everyone helped each other get up the steep incline onto Pohick road, where everyone went their own way. 

I walked about a mile the rest of the way home.  From the time we departed the parking lot to when I got home was 7 hours.  Took my colleague 3 more hours to get to his home in Woodbridge.  We got 12"+ from the event which ended just before sunset.  

Yes, it can snow here in November.  

 

 

 

 

 

[WxWatcher007]

On 10/13/2025 at 7:52 AM, WolfStock1 said:

Hi all - got a couple of questions if I may.   I tried posting this one thing in the Meteorology 101 section but it seems like no one pays attention there, so figured I'd try here.

My son's looking to go into meteorology, and I was wondering about a couple of things.   

First - since we live in VA, he was looking to most likely do the program at VT for meteorology.   What are folks' thoughts on that program vs other ones around the east?   It seems pretty good (we just visited), but it sounds like there are other ones around that may be as good or better - e.g. PSU, UMd, FSU.   Rankings are all over the place, so not reliable at all.  

One disadvantage is that the VT program is only undergrad.   We were wondering how much that might matter though - if desired he could do undergrad at VT and graduate school at one of the others.   Also it seems like most meteorology careers don't require graduate degree - fair to say?

Cost of course is a consideration, and a big driver towards VT - getting in-state tuition.

Other question I had in the other thread is about AI and about the impact of NOAA cuts.   Thoughts?

(below is link to the thread)

Thanks!

 

 

 

 

 

@MillvilleWx

[mappy]

On 10/4/2025 at 3:02 PM, WxUSAF said:

Ask him a climate change question about declining snow totals 

lol so school is now selling shirts that say “The Hereford Zone has Faith in the Flakes” to help pay for his visit and I want to stab myself in my eyeballs 

[Paleocene]

@Eskimo Joe @wxmeddleryou and the MD Mesonet team made UMD Pres. Pines' "State of the Campus" address today.