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20 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

Looks like Euro went in this direction too

Also pretty remarkable how our supposed endless summer just sort of ended. Looks quite cool (highs at least) moving forward. 

It wouldn't surprise me if the models continue to come in a bit wetter. Widespread 1-3" rainfall amounts look like a good bet. Some higher amounts up to 5-6" would also not surprise me. Considering how much rain some areas have had recently flooding is going to be a concern so I would expect the NWS to eventually issue flood watches. 

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9 minutes ago, Rtd208 said:

It wouldn't surprise me if the models continue to come in a bit wetter. Widespread 1-3" rainfall amounts look like a good bet. Some higher amounts up to 5-6" would also not surprise me. Considering how much rain some areas have had recently flooding is going to be a concern so I would expect the NWS to eventually issue flood watches. 

There will likely be a tropical connection too so I agree on locally much higher amounts. I think we need another full day of model runs before we know exactly what will happen. 

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The next 8 days are averaging   63degs.(58/68) or -3.

Gone are the 80's for October as GFS  struggles with 75 the next 16 days now.

3" still possible through 'Saturday>>> Monday AM' period.

Reached 79 here yesterday at 5:30pm.

Today:   72-75, wind ne., few clouds, 60 tomorrow AM.

61*/64%RH) here at 7am.     63* at 9am.     67* at Noon.      73* at 3pm.      76* at 4pm.     Reached 77* at 5pm.

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50 minutes ago, bluewave said:

Models starting to converge on the wetter coastal hugger tucked in track. The CMC came east and the Euro west. So a compromise of about 65% of what CMC had and about 35% Euro. So two swings and a miss so far from the Euro with tropical tracks. 

Checked a few of this pages comments and agreed... imo, EC-GFS may not be doing too well in the longer ranges with qpf here in the NYC subforum with overall GEPS seeming to be better allowing soaker 1"+ up to I90. Not a done deal north of I84 but sure looks like a somewhat nasty 5-7 day period Sat 23rd-Fri 29th.  Spot 4-6" NJ-LI/e PA seem probable. Rainouts of MLB games possible NYC, PHL, DCA meaning some might be doubled up on a day or not played at all depending on MLB impacts.

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5 minutes ago, wdrag said:

Checked a few of this pages comments and agreed... imo, EC-GFS may not be doing too well in the longer ranges with qpf here in the NYC subforum with overall GEPS seeming to be better allowing soaker 1"+ up to I90. Not a done deal north of I84 but sure looks like a somewhat nasty 5-7 day period Sat 23rd-Fri 29th.  Spot 4-6" NJ-LI/e PA seem probable. Rainouts of MLB games possible NYC, PHL, DCA meaning some might be doubled up on a day or not played at all depending on MLB impacts.

I know you have been a supporter of having the CMC on your side when making a forecast. I would have to say the model is the most Improved since recent upgrades. I wish we had a east coast storm statistical storm tracker which would score the models solely on forecasting the most accurate track. These Northern Hemispheric skill scores don’t tell us much about which model get our storm tracks right. But the skill on a hemispheric scale is great for temperature and teleconnection forecasts. 

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5 hours ago, SnoSki14 said:

Looks like Euro went in this direction too

Also pretty remarkable how our supposed endless summer just sort of ended. Looks quite cool (highs at least) moving forward. 

It wasn't even an endless summer anyway in terms of heat/above normal temps. Outside of a hot stretch during Labor Day week, the last month has been quite comfortable and actually fall-like in the morning a lot of days. One of the best late summer stretches in years at least for those of us who prefer not to have swamp ass.

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Just now, kat5hurricane said:

It wasn't even an endless summer anyway in terms of heat/above normal temps. Outside of a hot stretch during Labor Day week, the last month has been quite comfortable and actually fall-like in the morning a lot of days. One of the best late summer stretches in years.

That was a solid 7+ days of record setting temperatures that will skew the month well above normal (+2) against the warmer averages. 

And in the city lows are still struggling to drop below 60 so yes its been a very warm stretch. A few cooler days won't change that. 

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8 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

That was a solid 7+ days of record setting temperatures that will skew the month well above normal (+2) against the warmer averages. 

And in the city lows are still struggling to drop below 60 so yes its been a very warm stretch. A few cooler days won't change that. 

The other 4 boroughs besides Queens have dipped below 60.

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18 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said:

That was a solid 7+ days of record setting temperatures that will skew the month well above normal (+2) against the warmer averages. 

And in the city lows are still struggling to drop below 60 so yes its been a very warm stretch. A few cooler days won't change that. 

I live not far from LaGuardia which is considered one of the hot spots for morning lows and there have been many cool mornings, not just a few cool days. August had many beautiful, low humidity days.

It was the Labor Day week stretch with the real hot days and that's been it for the most part for REAL summer weather in the last 4-5 weeks. Pretty close to normal temps but with much lower humidity than we've been accustomed to in recent years.

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32 minutes ago, kat5hurricane said:

It wasn't even an endless summer anyway in terms of heat/above normal temps. Outside of a hot stretch during Labor Day week, the last month has been quite comfortable and actually fall-like in the morning a lot of days. One of the best late summer stretches in years at least for those of us who prefer not to have swamp ass.

The first two weeks of the month were endless summer as they they were one of the warmest on record. Since the 15th we have been pretty close to average against the warmer 91-20 climate normals. 

Time Series Summary for NEWARK LIBERTY INTL AP, NJ
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Ending Date
Mean Avg Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 14
Missing Count
1 1961-09-14 81.4 0
2 2023-09-14 79.0 0
3 1983-09-14 77.2 0
4 2015-09-14 76.9 0
5 1947-09-14 76.4 0


 

Time Series Summary for WESTCHESTER CO AP, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Ending Date
Mean Avg Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 14
Missing Count
1 1961-09-14 77.8 0
2 1983-09-14 74.6 0
3 2023-09-14 74.5 0
4 2015-09-14 73.7 0
5 2016-09-14 72.9 0


 

Time Series Summary for ISLIP-LI MACARTHUR AP, NY
Click column heading to sort ascending, click again to sort descending.
Rank
Ending Date
Mean Avg Temperature Sep 1 to Sep 14
Missing Count
1 2023-09-14 75.9 0
2 1983-09-14 74.1 0
3 2015-09-14 73.9 0
4 1980-09-14 73.1 0
5 2016-09-14 72.7 0
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