SACRUS Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Some pop showers now into NEPA and near NWNJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman19 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, bluewave said: Yeah, last winter was the strongest -AO that was south based. So it was the warmest on record for such a low -AO reading. You can see the -AO pressing further south into the Northeast over time. Very interesting. Last winter, it was so far south it was linking up with the WAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, SnoSki14 said: A very warm winter is a lock but blocking could still create snowfall opportunities. I don't think we'll ever see a cold winter again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, Rjay said: You know I'm right though. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 winters will never be as cold as they were back in the 1970's and 1980's in this area unless something huge happens like a massive volcanic eruption something like that... that climate change for you..' 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 4 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: 70 or above: 5th place 75 or above: 1st with 126 days (old record: 124, 1971, 2001, and 2010) 80 or above: Tied for 12th wow, such a difference between 70-75-80 lol. No chance of catching the 70 record is there (I assume 80 is out of reach?) 80 is actually a tipping point for me, where I have to use A/C But the last couple of days I've had to turn it on when the temps reached 75, so maybe that's a more accurate indication. I have a lot of sunlight coming in too. Today is actually enjoyable, although I was shivering last night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 31 minutes ago, nycwinter said: winters will never be as cold as they were back in the 1970's and 1980's in this area unless something huge happens like a massive volcanic eruption something like that... that climate change for you..' much more snow now though- would you rather have the dry cold winters of back then which were boring aside from 1977-78 or the milder snowier wetter winters we have now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, uncle W said: years ago a very negative AO ment very cold at the time...now it yields a snowstorm... Feb 1969 and Feb 2020 had the lowest AO number after a major storm...Dec 2009 had a snowstorm in progress and 2011 would get one ten days later...even March 2018 had major storms after the AO minimum... the weather now is MUCH more exciting than it was back then 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, bluewave said: Yeah, last winter was the strongest -AO that was south based. So it was the warmest on record for such a low -AO reading. You can see the -AO pressing further south into the Northeast over time. whats causing this and could it mean another extreme arctic outbreak for Texas this winter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: much more snow now though- would you rather have the dry cold winters of back then which were boring aside from 1977-78 or the milder snowier wetter winters we have now? we had cold winters in the mid 1980;s into the early 90;s as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: the weather now is MUCH more exciting than it was back then if you lived through the March 1960 to Feb 1961 period you wouldn't say that... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 i dont want going forward muggy humid octobers.. i prefer chilli 9 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: much more snow now though- would you rather have the dry cold winters of back then which were boring aside from 1977-78 or the milder snowier wetter winters we have now? so you prefer unbearable summer heat and humidity going forward as we are having recently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 remember the 1996 blizzard when it started snowing when temps were around 13 or 14 degrees.. some winters lately we barely even get to that temp for the coldest low of the entire winter in nyc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, nycwinter said: i dont want going forward muggy humid octobers.. i prefer chilli so you prefer unbearable summer heat and humidity going forward as we are having recently? I like dry heat.....but why cant we have the best of both worlds....for example 2009-10 winter, then 2010 summer (my favorite, hot and dry very comfy!), and then 2010-11 winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, uncle W said: if you lived through the March 1960 to Feb 1961 period you wouldn't say that... Yes but this has lasted longer.....compare Dec 2009 through October 2012.....so much excitement, two epic winters and two epic summers and an October snowstorm to cap it all off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 8 minutes ago, nycwinter said: we had cold winters in the mid 1980;s into the early 90;s as well. big snow drought, my favorite winter in the 80s was 82-83 when we had the big snow storm...summer of 1983 was awesome too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 minute ago, LibertyBell said: Yes but this has lasted longer.....compare Dec 2009 through October 2012.....so much excitement, two epic winters and two epic summers and an October snowstorm to cap it all off! Dec 59 to Feb 61 yielded five major snowstorms and hurricane Donna which was one of the greatest hurricanes to hit this area...1959 was the first white Christmas in NYC in 11 years... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, uncle W said: Dec 59 to Feb 61 yielded five major snowstorms and hurricane Donna which was one of the greatest hurricanes to hit this area...1959 was the first white Christmas in NYC in 11 years... I would like to experience February 1961 that sounds like an awesome storm and with today's climate with more precip it might have topped January 2016 at JFK. I am glad I live near JFK, I'm one of the few in the area that can say I experienced a 30"+ snowstorm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 25 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: the weather now is MUCH more exciting than it was back then Every snowfall season since 09-10 has had at least 1 top 10 snowiest month at one of our stations. This was also true for the disappointing 11-12, 18-19, and 19-20 seasons. October 2011 was the snowiest on record in NYC. November 2018 was 4th snowiest in NYC. May 2020 tied for snowiest with 1977 for the record late trace around the area. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH L.I Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 In mid October 1968 it hit 81,80 and 78 in consecutive days. So Summer in October is not unusual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 7 minutes ago, bluewave said: Every snowfall season since 09-10 has had at least 1 top 10 snowiest month at one of our stations. This was also true for the disappointing 11-12, 18-19, and 19-20 seasons. October 2011 was the snowiest on record in NYC. November 2018 was 4th snowiest in NYC. May 2020 tied for snowiest with 1977 for the record late trace around the area. We've had some amazing Januarys and Februarys too. Funny thing about the 70s and 80s, Januarys were much colder back then but before January 1996 I had never experienced a foot plus snowstorm in January (too young for January 1978 to remember it), and they've become much more common since and one can argue our biggest snowstorms have now shifted from February to January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 1 hour ago, SACRUS said: Some pop showers now into NEPA and near NWNJ Just had one over me here in southern Brooklyn. Don't recall seeing any mention of rain in the forecast for today. Look like lake effect or at least lake enhanced from the radar view. Edit: NWS OKX did mention it in their AFD: In addition, cyclonic to neutral flow coupled with steep low- level lapse rates and the upper trough overhead, may trigger a few showers and/or sprinkles this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 A semi-sun shower in CI at 2:15pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 11 minutes ago, KEITH L.I said: In mid October 1968 it hit 81,80 and 78 in consecutive days. So Summer in October is not unusual 88 degrees in Central Park on Oct 22, 1979. 80 degrees the day prior (21st) and 78 the next day (23rd). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 20 minutes ago, KEITH L.I said: In mid October 1968 it hit 81,80 and 78 in consecutive days. So Summer in October is not unusual it's becoming less and less unusual 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 Temperatures are barely BN but it feels so much colder due to how its been. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 12 minutes ago, SnoSki14 said: Temperatures are barely BN but it feels so much colder due to how its been. The TV-mets will have to be more judicious in their weather segments when describing the day as cool, and be more pedantic describing it as an average autumn day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 27 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: We've had some amazing Januarys and Februarys too. Funny thing about the 70s and 80s, Januarys were much colder back then but before January 1996 I had never experienced a foot plus snowstorm in January (too young for January 1978 to remember it), and they've become much more common since and one can argue our biggest snowstorms have now shifted from February to January. Yeah, the only 70s winter that had impressive snowstorms by recent standards was 77-78. The 70s was the last time we saw a top 10 coldest winter in our area. Now its frequent top 10 or top 20 warmest winters. Warmest winters NY climate division 4 200112 - 200202 39.3°F 126 5.8°F 201512 - 201602 39.3°F 126 5.8°F 201112 - 201202 38.7°F 124 5.2°F 201612 - 201702 37.8°F 123 4.3°F 193112 - 193202 37.7°F 122 4.2°F 199712 - 199802 37.7°F 122 4.2°F 201912 - 202002 37.6°F 120 4.1°F 199012 - 199102 36.5°F 119 3.0°F 199812 - 199902 36.4°F 118 2.9°F 193612 - 193702 36.3°F 117 2.8°F 199612 - 199702 36.1°F 116 2.6°F 194812 - 194902 35.9°F 115 2.4°F 195212 - 195302 35.8°F 114 2.3°F 201212 - 201302 35.8°F 114 2.3°F 193212 - 193302 35.6°F 112 2.1°F 200512 - 200602 35.5°F 111 2.0°F 199412 - 199502 35.4°F 110 1.9°F 198212 - 198302 35.3°F 109 1.8°F 200612 - 200702 35.3°F 109 1.8°F 197412 - 197502 35.2°F 107 1.7°F 195312 - 195402 35.1°F 106 1.6°F Coldest winters 191712 - 191802 23.4°F 1 -10.1°F 190312 - 190402 24.2°F 2 -9.3°F 190412 - 190502 24.3°F 3 -9.2°F 191912 - 192002 25.4°F 4 -8.1°F 193512 - 193602 26.8°F 5 -6.7°F 193312 - 193402 27.0°F 6 -6.5°F 197612 - 197702 27.3°F 7 -6.2°F 190612 - 190702 27.4°F 8 -6.1°F 194712 - 194802 27.4°F 8 -6.1°F 192212 - 192302 27.8°F 10 -5.7°F 191112 - 191202 28.1°F 11 -5.4°F 196212 - 196302 28.1°F 11 -5.4°F 197712 - 197802 28.2°F 13 -5.3°F 190012 - 190102 28.4°F 14 -5.1°F 189812 - 189902 28.5°F 15 -5.0°F 194412 - 194502 28.5°F 15 -5.0°F 195812 - 195902 28.5°F 15 -5.0°F 190112 - 190202 28.6°F 18 -4.9°F 193912 - 194002 28.7°F 19 -4.8°F 191012 - 191102 28.8°F 20 -4.7°F 196012 - 196102 28.8°F 20 -4.7°F 196912 - 197002 29.0°F 22 -4.5°F 191612 - 191702 29.2°F 23 -4.3°F 199312 - 199402 29.2°F 23 -4.3°F 190912 - 191002 29.4°F 25 -4.1°F 189612 - 189702 29.5°F 26 -4.0°F 193412 - 193502 29.6°F 27 -3.9°F 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lee59 Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 2 hours ago, nycwinter said: winters will never be as cold as they were back in the 1970's and 1980's in this area unless something huge happens like a massive volcanic eruption something like that... that climate change for you..' Maybe they said that in Texas last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 3 minutes ago, lee59 said: Maybe they said that in Texas last year. once in a century event... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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