zinski1990 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, SmokeEater said: There's many words for that idiot I can't use here, he does this all the time too. Sent from my SM-G973U using Tapatalk Sounds like he just panicked basically. Or just a drama queen. Just funny people resort to social media like that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drstuess Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Blackstart is also a pain in the ass. Not sure what generation is local or on this side of the transmissions outages, but could be a while till back up.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattPetrulli Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Overshadowed by other things obviously, but MS coast has been spitting out solid tropical storm conditions along with a 6 foot storm surge in Bay St. Louis 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, jacindc said: WWL reporter showing that I-10 near the 610 split in Metarie is covered with water. He sounds pretty disturbed by it, worried about where the water would be coming from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, jacindc said: WWL reporter showing that I-10 near the 610 split in Metarie is covered with water. He sounds pretty disturbed by it, worried about where the water would be coming from. That is potentially extremely bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kristospherein Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: We take the cheap ugly and inefficient way out. When folks visit me from the EU they are always amazed at our lame duck solution, noting how ugly it is. It's not just NO and low lying areas, of course. Really? Underground is on average 10 times more expensive than overhead lines. Europe as a continent is barely larger than the entirety of the US. I'd like to see them run underground lines hundreds of miles for no reason whatsoever. We could increase the amount of underground lines but then we'd dramatically increase the cost of electricity and underground lines are much more difficult to fix if something goes wrong. Source: I work for a utility. As a side note, NO is in trouble for a few days, if not weeks, if all 8 transmission lines into town are out of service. That would explain why they had a "catastrophic" failure to cause 100% power loss. The tower that fell into the Mississippi can have the line be temporarily rerouted in a matter of days if the area isn't under water. Edit: edited two inaccurate statements 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, MN Transplant said: If you look at the satellite maps, Laplace is the only area west of the Lake where they built into the swamp and connected the river and I10. Hurricanes don't seem to like it. Andrew in 92 threw out an F-3 deadly tornado there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebman Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Will - Rutgers said: i mean, it's pitch black, the storm is raging, and the water is high and rising. how the hell is anyone supposed to do anything, right? We've gotta try! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, RandyHolt said: We take the cheap ugly and inefficient way out. When folks visit me from the EU they are always amazed at our lame duck solution, noting how ugly it is. It's not just NO and low lying areas, of course. I work in transmission. There's no shortage of transmission towers in Europe. ... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grep1 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, KPITSnow said: That is potentially extremely bad. Multiple snap chats with people in the attic in this area 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayson Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 You cant have powerlines underground where saltwater intrusion is an issue. Ask NYC about that. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Grep1 said: Multiple snap chats with people in the attic in this area I mean if this is true, I can only think this would me a levee has broken or been breached in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 If you search LaPlace in Twitter you’ll see a lot of people begging for help. That place is beyond help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drstuess Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 How states, counties, townships etc along the coast, allow surface transmission lines is beyond me. Makes absolutely no sense. Let’s put a tree in the ground and attach 480 to it. Hopefully since we call it a pole it will survive 150 mph winds… insanity480? Distribution is usually 12.47, 25, etc kV, so MV; 480 is LV. Transmisison usually much higher, > 100 kV. Either way, reality, is underground and ring/euro RMU style distribution is much more reliable, but brownfield is 7 figures per mile. Either way, if your transmission towers fall into the Mississippi not much you can do. Microgrids could get power to back to some sooner, but tough and general favor the ones with the means.Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonPeon Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 3 minutes ago, Kristospherein said: Really? Underground is on average 10 times more expensive than overhead lines. Europe as a continent is barely larger than the entirety of the US. I'd like to see them run underground lines hundreds of miles for no reason whatsoever. We could increase the amount of underground lines but then we'd dramatically increase the cost of electricity and underground lines are much more difficult to fix if something goes wrong. Source: I work for a utility. As a side note, NO is in trouble for a few days, if not weeks, if all 8 transmission lines into town are out of service. That would explain why they had a "catastrophic" failure to cause 100% power loss. The tower that fell into the Mississippi can have the line be temporarily rerouted in a matter of days if the area isn't under water. Europe has overhead transmission lines in rural areas and over long distances. They don't have overhead local distribution in denser areas. America does, and america is less dense, but more of that has to do with the us allowing rampant, ugly sprawl to occur anywhere, and it's invention of the disaster that is the modern car dependent suburb. If everywhere else that is developed can afford to bury power, so can the usa, but if it's a major transmission line here, that's not the issue. The larger issue is needing the line in the first place to service thousands living in an area that will constantly, and increasingly meet with disaster. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mempho Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Multiple snap chats with people in the attic in this areaThis is inside the Storm Damage Reduction System for New Orleans. I mean, could easily be extreme flash flooding...I hope so. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KPITSnow Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Just now, mempho said: This is inside the Storm Damage Reduction System for New Orleans. I mean, could easily be extreme flash flooding... I hope so. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk I mean, extreme flash flooding pushing people all the way to the attic? Either way, regardless of how it is happening that is incredibly bad news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Jon Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2900 block of Donner drive in New Orleans flooded, water rising. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mempho Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 I mean, extreme flash flooding pushing people all the way to the attic? Either way, regardless of how it is happening that is incredibly bad news.I'm saying that because my understanding is that there is no risk of storm surge inside the system.... That's what they were telling everyone, at least. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, mempho said: This is inside the Storm Damage Reduction System for New Orleans. I mean, could easily be extreme flash flooding... I hope so. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk The NWS New Orleans is saying the cause is flash flooding 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo radley Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Am I too hopeful or does it look like rain may lessen in couple hours around NO? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, KPITSnow said: That is potentially extremely bad. I think that is where the memorable footage of a driver driving into the water and a reporter rushing in to help him was, near the I-10/610 split. I've been to New Orleans and Venice enough to know that area. That video was on TV before people outside NOLA knew about the flooding in the city. I don't know if that is rainwater flooding alone, or there has been a flood control/levee breach. But that area was where the first indication New Orleans wasn't fine, as reported by reporters staying in the French Quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy4Wx Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 1 minute ago, Wmsptwx said: Am I too hopeful, or does it appear that the rain may lighten awhile in New Orleans proper within couple hours? Depends how far west it travels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jac_not_in_dc Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 2 minutes ago, mempho said: I'm saying that because my understanding is that there is no risk of storm surge inside the system.... That's what they were telling everyone, at least. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk This isn't storm surge, this is torrential rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sojitodd Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 6 minutes ago, mempho said: This is inside the Storm Damage Reduction System for New Orleans. I mean, could easily be extreme flash flooding... I hope so. Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk I don't believe it is. It is not according to the maps of that system I am pulling up. It iappears it is west of where that system ends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ginx snewx Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 5 minutes ago, jacindc said: This isn't storm surge, this is torrential rain. Lake P surge 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mempho Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 The NWS New Orleans is saying the cause is flash flooding That's definitely better than the alternative Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed, snow and hurricane fan Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 It could be rain, but the second floor window flooding rescues in Houston/Harvey didn't start the first day with the first foot of rain. Not claiming to be any kind of expert in rainfall runoff, but roof top rescues from a foot of rain, that doesn't seem likely in fairly flat terrain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojo762 Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 9 minutes ago, Doc Jon said: 2900 block of Donner drive in New Orleans flooded, water rising. Looks like there is some sort of small stream that runs parallel to Donner Dr in NOLA. It looks tiny, so the fact that they're reporting flooding from it is pretty astonishing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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