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4 minutes ago, Cyclone-68 said:

We need a tropical threat to help bring back board unity 

You kidding? We'd have an entire thread of whining. Tropical threats in SNE usually involve a few lawn chairs blown over after DIT promises forests being flattened.

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1 hour ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said:

Can they?

Mom and Pa with their 5 kids survived on Pa working at the local plumbing supply yard 40-50 years ago.

The days of a large family being able to survive off of one spouse working a blue collar job are long gone.

My mom is 1 of 4 and her father was a truck driver. Her mother never worked, and the family lived relatively comfortable. Do you know a lot of truck drivers supporting a large family as the sole provider these days? I don’t.

Many people are in debt over luxury purchases. Thousand dollar phones, laptops, hundreds per month for streaming services, vacations, etc. Tons of credit card debt. There are definitely plenty of people who try to live frugally and still can’t make it. But that’s not everyone. 

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14 minutes ago, UMB WX said:

Coming to this thread to counter his nonsense rants is way down the list of why I come to enjoy the SNE threads over the yrs.

I don’t think anyone cares what you think. 

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20 minutes ago, TheSnowman said:

Man.  You guys are going to have a Lot to say when I get my Capitalism Talk out.  I’m a Severe fan of Capitalism, and think ANY HINT of Socialism and Regulation is an Utter disaster, making for a worthless, excuse making, lazy society.  Including the Minimum Wage which is asinine that it exists.  The Free Market in a civilized society fixes everything on its own with zero regulation.  Didn’t realize many on here were fans of socialist “Help” people out by unfairly taking from other people ideals.  

Most here are middle class or upper middle class liberals in neighborhoods with HOAs and well-funded youth soccer leagues who are just virtue signaling. They don’t want to share their wealth with anyone. They don’t even want to let people from the lower classes live in block housing near them due to “property values.”

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25 minutes ago, tamarack said:

Like wise, but we're early-year boomers so can't compete with today's desires.  Our current house ha a 960 sf footprint but might squeeze out 1500 sf if loft and part of the basement are included, and it's our biggest in 50 years (next week) of marriage.  Our daughter/SIL and the 7 kids are in a house only slightly larger - has 1.5 baths and we've never had more than 1 - but they're organized, even helping to make work the 11-people-one-bathroom scenario when they visit.  We had 2 trips-of-a-lifetime, in 2016 (Japan, visiting son/DIL) and 2017 (Norway, where my wife's grandparents were born) but that was enabled by her dad's passing in 2014.  Other "vacations" tend toward watching the older kids while parents tend to the newest arrival, helping with fix-it projects and light construction, battling the abundant poison ivy, etc.  We head home exhausted but joyful and blessed.  And thoroughly middle class in my sort-of white collar job - white because it requires a 4-year degree, blue (or wool, perhaps) because it involves time in the puckerbush with the blackflies or at -20.

To me, that’s the American dream. Never for want of the necessities. Yet never needing each and every want. Live a happy life with family and friends. Do more than just survive and scrape by.  

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5 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Most here are middle class or upper middle class liberals in neighborhoods with HOAs and well-funded youth soccer leagues who are just virtue signaling. They don’t want to share their wealth with anyone. They don’t even want to let people from the lower classes live in block housing near them due to “property values.”

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16 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Most here are middle class or upper middle class liberals in neighborhoods with HOAs and well-funded youth soccer leagues who are just virtue signaling. They don’t want to share their wealth with anyone. They don’t even want to let people from the lower classes live in block housing near them due to “property values.”

You really think that’s most of this New England forum you interact with on a daily basis?

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Another source of debt that goes under the radar usually is wage garnishments for child support, alimony, and legal judgments (IRS, banks, etc.). More people than you probably think have this going on. 

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Just now, powderfreak said:

You really think that’s most of this New England forum you interact with on a daily basis?

Middle class? Definitely. I feel pretty confident that most here from CT, RI, and MA live in typical suburban environments. All the lawn, garden, and pool talk is pretty typical. I’m sure some are in different scenarios. If someone here is living in abject poverty they haven’t talked about it. 

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Agreed that most people on this forum are middle class and upward and many live in suburban environments, but HOAs are actually much less common in New England compared to the balance of the country. 

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Just now, bch2014 said:

Agreed that most people on this forum are middle class and upward and many live in suburban environments, but HOAs are actually much less common in New England compared to the balance of the country. 

That may be true. They are super common here but perhaps less so up there. Doesn’t change the general concept that much. 

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1 hour ago, PhineasC said:

Most here are middle class or upper middle class liberals in neighborhoods with HOAs and well-funded youth soccer leagues who are just virtue signaling. They don’t want to share their wealth with anyone. They don’t even want to let people from the lower classes live in block housing near them due to “property values.”

Mmm ... not that you're posing any sort of argument here - it just gets me thinkin'

Much of the  real motivation isn't that.  I hear it all the time, and it smacks as flimsy ( pun intended..), a veneer in pragmatics and spin evasion. 

- what follows is nagging anxiety that their sense of community will get denatured (forcibly) and diluted, lose its identity and to a greater extent, their advantages - calling a spade a spade while we are at it. What's really at stake is mashed up form of tribal-elitism.

So in that sense, the deeper psyche in the matter is likely more about preservationism of their own habitat. 

In a lot of ways, humans have territorial instincts - we just play and act on those in vastly complex means compared to other warm blooded whatevers -

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2 hours ago, NorEastermass128 said:

Here, they buy the Cape at 500k+ and build a mansion to sell for 1.5M+
 

So long as the fat cats keep gobbling them up, the starter houses are a thing of the past. As a FTHB, I went straight to condos/townhomes. 

They don't build small houses anymore because builders can make so much more profit off a large house.  I know a few builders....they say there's no money in building small houses and people keep buying the big ones, so why change?  Think about it...a lot of the costs are the same....driveway, earthwork, septic, well, permitting....basically all the same costs for big or small. 

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30 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Middle class? Definitely. I feel pretty confident that most here from CT, RI, and MA live in typical suburban environments. All the lawn, garden, and pool talk is pretty typical. I’m sure some are in different scenarios. If someone here is living in abject poverty they haven’t talked about it. 

Yeah I just didn’t get the HOA thing I guess.  I agree most are middle class, with a wide definition.  Never hear of HOA in suburbs up north.

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33 minutes ago, PhineasC said:

Middle class? Definitely. I feel pretty confident that most here from CT, RI, and MA live in typical suburban environments. I’m very very big with that group..huge . All the lawn, garden, and pool talk is pretty typical. I’m sure some are in different scenarios but they listen to me very bigly, some may say the biggest .If someone here is living in abject poverty they haven’t talked about it but My wisdom is well ..some may say ..a gift to them as well 

2024 run.....

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21 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

You really think that’s most of this New England forum you interact with on a daily basis?

Yes. he. does. 

Hot takes with, Phin.  Most  here are virtue signaling, Greedy Middle to upper class Liberals that don’t even want to let people from the lower classes live near them. . 

 

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4 minutes ago, powderfreak said:

Yeah I just didn’t get the HOA thing I guess.  I agree most are middle class, with a wide definition.  Never hear of HOA in suburbs up north.

If not HOAs, then just a bunch of Karen-like DIT types running around complaining. Same end point really. 

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1 minute ago, Ginx snewx said:

No suburbs here. Lots of us live in rural areas by the way.  Liberal? Maybe in 1970

I don’t think you are someone who is calling for a massive wealth redistribution program and free college/healthcare/housing. 

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7 minutes ago, UMB WX said:

Yes. he. does. 

Hot takes with, Phin.  Most  here are virtue signaling, Greedy Middle to upper class Liberals that don’t even want to let people from the lower classes live near them. . 

 

Building blockhousing in a neighborhood causes more traffic and noise. Its a turnoff for people who wanted to get out of a city where its neck to neck.

I dont care who lives near me but i dont need to see 100 extra cars/noise go down my side street everyday. 

Someone buys a house for a certain price and you expect them to accept less when they want to resell??? Your insane.

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6 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said:

James topic is closed but everyone should see this. By the way his Mom is getting better but has an enormous long road ahead of her.

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OH My GOD!!  James is GONE!?  That is So touching to All of us to see "Our Weather Man".  Us Air Force.  A Massive Salute to you Sir James.  I can't get over "Our Weather Man".  Wow.  This is terrible.  What happened??  

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Just now, PhineasC said:

I don’t think you are someone who is calling for a massive wealth redistribution program and free college/healthcare/housing. 

Hardly. Just finished paying mine and my kids student loans off. Never once expected someone else to relive me of my signed loan agreements.  I knew what I was getting into. Personal responsibility is a thing of the past. The tax code needs reform for sure.  Hiding assets overseas is a huge problem. Have no problem with billionaires who pay their employees well and pay their fair share.  Its the greedy ones who are the problem.  I live within my means. Wish I had more but I have all I need but damn inflation is starting to pinch.

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2 minutes ago, TheSnowman said:

OH My GOD!!  James is GONE!?  That is So touching to All of us to see "Our Weather Man".  Us Air Force.  A Massive Salute to you Sir James.  I can't get over "Our Weather Man".  Wow.  This is terrible.  What happened??  

There is a whole thread

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Just now, BuffaloWeather said:

Those are Chads. 

Hmm, will need to check my meme database. I thought Chads were younger jock types who hit on married women in bars and drive lifted trucks. Kens are male Karens on the school boards and yelling at soccer coaches. 

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