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1 hour ago, tamarack said:

Ask an engineer if the glass is half full or half empty and the answer will be "The glass is twice as big as it needs to be."

Ask a brewery worker and we will tell you it doesn't matter, because the glass can always be refilled.

 

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4 home runs for the Sox so far and it's only the top of the 3rd inning.  Nice to see them come alive again.

JD with 2 of them, Bogey and Devers with the others.  Those guys are going to carry this team offensively.

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5 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Everywhere.  Great business model, prices cheaper than Walmart and in and out. I love their Italian bread vendor here. I get coffee, cereal, milk, dog snacks, bread, butter and other medicine there. I hate Walmart and they are just down the road a couple miles. 

And at least in this area, all the small stores that sold general merchandise  were gone before they came in. Walmart was late here too. I don’t care for Walmart with but by the time the got here, finding affordable general merchandise was difficult in a lot of small towns. Face it, I’m not buying underwear and socks from a chi-chi boutique. 

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1 hour ago, DotRat_Wx said:

What's everyone drinking tonight? 

1 Angel’s Envy and 1 Maker’s Mark 46. Both pretty good bourbons. 

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I’m smack in the middle of gen-X  Funny thing Will’s description pretty much sums it up for us too  ... you could tell just offset 

First shot today. So far nada on adverse reaction 

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Just now, amarshall said:


Yup. Neighbors house. Spitting snow in Vegas right now


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Wow nice! Was just some rain here. 

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3 hours ago, NorEastermass128 said:

LOL. Back to over 100F.  40 hours out. 

2nd shot, right ?

Trying to get a bead on this is impossible.  Scatter plot of different reactions ranging from nothing across both doses, to admissions to an ER. 

I'm now working on 18 hours since first dose with no symptoms ...other than feeling of mild bruise in the shoulder. 

You know, when I ask a person if they are experiencing any symptoms from vaccination, and the immediate first sentence goes like, " ...I have a sore shoulder, and - " I'm getting tired of f'ing hearing that.  No shit!  You stick a foreign metallic object deep into your soft tissue, ..that's likely to leave a mark regardless of intent.  Can we keep that out of it please?   No - that is not a symptom of vaccination.  That is a circumstance of having a veritable nail jab into one's flesh.  Different.  ..sorry, rant done.

I guess less reactions from first dose ...but it's not zero. Just less.  I don't know when/if at all this would kick in if I do.  It'll be 24 hours late this afternoon and I figure it to be unlikely from that point forward. 

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3 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

2nd shot, right ?

No - that is not a symptom of vaccination.  That is a circumstance of having a veritable nail jab into one's flesh.  Different.  ..sorry, rant done. 

Not exactly. Part of the soreness is from the inflammatory response, not just the needle and the liquid stretching the muscle fibers. Several types of leukocytes migrate to the site in response to the antigen. In the case of mRNA vaccines, the  myocytes take up the mRNA and start pumping out spike protein and displaying it as “not self”. Dendritic cells, neutrophils, macrophages are all summoned by cytokines which cause havoc with body temperature and cause a lot of the soreness. In my case, the sore arm from the first shot took 10-12 hours. It set in within 2 hours of the second. More immune response with the second. 

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3 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said:

Not exactly. Part of the soreness is from the inflammatory response, not just the needle and the liquid stretching the muscle fibers. Several types of leukocytes migrate to the site in response to the antigen. In the case of mRNA vaccines, the  myocytes take up the mRNA and start pumping out spike protein and displaying it as “not self”. Dendritic cells, neutrophils, macrophages are all summoned by cytokines which cause havoc with body temperature and cause a lot of the soreness. In my case, the sore arm from the first shot took 10-12 hours. It set in within 2 hours of the second. More immune response with the second. 

Saying "not exactly" isn't unnecessary - I know this latter stuff but from person to person it's impossible to separate the effect/affect ratio of response, first of all.  Secondly,  there is an immuno response to any invasive object -  you stick a nail in your arm, all that shit you labeled is going to happen, too.  Those responses are 'common reactionary denominators' ..that was my point.  And we know that already/... of should...

I guess my tongue-in-cheek rant is pointed at the bitching and whining of an aspect that is assume-able ...but whatever

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16 hours ago, NorEastermass128 said:

Back down to 97.8. Now I just feel like I have a good hangover. About 24 hours out...

I had the hangover feeling this morning with my second shot yesterday. No alcohol, but I didn’t hydrate well yesterday and I was sweating quite a bit at the kids baseball practice. 

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10 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said:

 

I guess my tongue-in-cheek rant is pointed at the bitching and whining of an aspect that is assume-able ...but whatever

Oh I get that too. Some is tolerance. Some people can take an extreme amount of pain and discomfort and it doesn’t bother them at all. Some get upset if they have a slight whichever in their big toe.

My father said he didn’t even have a sore shoulder with any of the 2 shots. I doubt that. This is a man who smashed his left thumb flat as a pancake with a 5 pound sledge hammer on a job site and drove home with it just wrapped up in a rag he had on his plumbing truck.

Did I mention the job site was 500 miles from home? The man has an enormous pain tolerance. 

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18 hours ago, Ginx snewx said:

Everywhere.  Great business model, prices cheaper than Walmart and in and out. I love their Italian bread vendor here. I get coffee, cereal, milk, dog snacks, bread, butter and other medicine there. I hate Walmart and they are just down the road a couple miles. 

None of that stuff in the one that closed in Farmington, just cheap junky stuff; haven't been to its still-open relative there.  Nor have I entered the one that recently opened in our huge town of 1,500.  I prefer to shop 3/4 miles west at the Sandy River farm Supply - offers decent pizza and Italians, modest assortment of packaged food and drink, chainsaw files, cord/rope of all sizes, the broadest assortment of small hardware I've seen anywhere - about 15 feet wide and 4 feet tall filled with hundreds of small shelves.  Kind of a throwback and does a good business  I doubt the Dollar Store up the street will have any impact though the DD next to it might, as SRFS sells a lot of Carrabassett Coffee and local-made donuts..

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25 minutes ago, WhitinsvilleWX said:

Oh I get that too. Some is tolerance. Some people can take an extreme amount of pain and discomfort and it doesn’t bother them at all. Some get upset if they have a slight whichever in their big toe.

My father said he didn’t even have a sore shoulder with any of the 2 shots. I doubt that. This is a man who smashed his left thumb flat as a pancake with a 5 pound sledge hammer on a job site and drove home with it just wrapped up in a rag he had on his plumbing truck.

Did I mention the job site was 500 miles from home? The man has an enormous pain tolerance. 

Heh huh ... I'd replace "some" in that bold turn of phrase with "most" ... but yup.

And add, without being solicited ... I know:  Anyone born since circa 1950 are entitled assholes and aren't even aware of it. Even the ' good ones,' ranging to 'conditional sociopaths,' and everyone character in between, whichever delusion of self worth they covet that avoids them knowing this about themselves aside, they are definitely  unclear on the concept of 'natural inconvenience' vs the assumption of utopia the modern convenience has given them. 

I'm a cynical snark at times ...particularly when I realize in moments of clarity that my soul mate hates and despises me and I'm forever alone without her and hate all of humanity because of it...LOL ... But somewhere in all that cumulonimbus cloud of continuous lightning it sparks, there are positive charges of truth:  

people of modernity are desperately in need of a reality check. They need massive doses of repeating humility and constant inconvenience ... until they get it through their f'n heads that they suck and will die.     Once the yget that...you know what else happens?  ...

All this recreation outrage... woke this, cancel-culture that, the 'how dare my shoulder ache from a 2" needle' all of it ...it all goes away -

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