NJwx85 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Very slight shift East with the 18z spaghetti models. Mean track still over NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: Very slight shift East with the 18z spaghetti models. Mean track still over NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MJO812 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 From the main subforum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB-99 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 A few tornadoes will be possible from the Virginia Tidewater into New England Tuesday into Tuesday night, in association with Isaias. Scattered severe thunderstorms capable of producing large hail and damaging winds may also occur across portions of the northern and central Plains. ...Eastern North Carolina to New England... Latest forecast from the National Hurricane Center indicates that Isaias should be located over far northeastern NC and southeastern VA at the start of the period Tuesday morning. Isaias should accelerate northeastward along the Mid-Atlantic Coast and into New England through the period as it becomes absorbed within an upper-level trough over the eastern CONUS. A rather strong low-level flow field (60-70+ kt at 850 mb) will be present in the eastern half of Isaias' circulation, which will aid in substantial low-level hodograph curvature/enhancement. The best prospect for weak destabilization (MLCAPE 250-1000 J/kg) should exist along/near the Mid-Atlantic to southern New England Coast, where surface dewpoints should increase into the low to perhaps mid 70s through Tuesday evening. Given the very favorable low-level shear, primary concern will be a few tornadoes with any low-topped cells in outer rain bands along/east of the center of Isaias' circulation. Confidence has increased enough in the Isaias' track and potential for modest diurnal destabilization along/near the coast to include 5% tornado probabilities and a Slight Risk from the VA Tidewater region northeastward into southern New England. Eventually, the strong low-level shear should become displaced to the north of even weak inland destabilization across NH and ME by late Tuesday night. This should result in a gradual lessening of the isolated tornado threat with northward extent across New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crossbowftw3 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Wind Advisory URGENT - WEATHER MESSAGE National Weather Service Binghamton NY 314 PM EDT Mon Aug 3 2020 NYZ062-PAZ048-041915- /O.NEW.KBGM.WI.Y.0010.200804T1600Z-200805T0300Z/ Sullivan-Pike- Including the cities of Monticello and Milford 314 PM EDT Mon Aug 3 2020 ...WIND ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM NOON TO 11 PM EDT TUESDAY... * WHAT...Northeast winds 20 to 30 mph with gusts up to 50 mph expected. * WHERE...In Pennsylvania, Pike county. In New York, Sullivan county. * WHEN...From noon to 11 PM EDT Tuesday. * IMPACTS...Gusty winds could blow around unsecured objects. Tree limbs could be blown down and a few power outages may result. PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS... Use extra caution when driving, especially if operating a high profile vehicle. Secure outdoor objects. && $$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Down to 993 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 8:01 AM, Great Snow 1717 said: The hurricanes in 1635, 1667,1693 and 1788 may have been major hurricanes. And a close miss in 1869. Others of interest are the 2 hurricanes in 1815 and the hurricane in 1849. I was reading an old weather book a few years ago, so I may have the year wrong, but it stated that there was a hurricane in early October 1804 (Cat 2- but it stated F2 for some reason), that dropped snow in Boston and sleet in NYC with temps in the 30s. The storm basically bisected LI and CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LibertyBell Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Interesting track...... guys, look up Bertha 1996. This one might have a track similar to that one.....65 mph TS when it made landfall near JFK. The track is close enough to the ocean for it not to weaken rapidly, plus its speed up the coast will help it maintain its structure up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 This one also had a similar track, but of course was much stronger- Cat 4 in southern NJ and Cat 3 in the city, when the eye moved right over Manhattan. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1821_Norfolk_and_Long_Island_hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadInTheClouds Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Satellite imagery shows the center is on eastern edge of the cone. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, HeadInTheClouds said: Satellite imagery shows the center is on eastern edge of the cone. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yep, especially the European has been too far west with this consistently ever since it said it was going to make LF in South Florida. This will probably make landfall near Cape Fear like Bertha 1996 did and track up to western LI at a similar intensity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle W Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 there was a hurricane in 1949 that stayed off shore but caused damage in Brooklyn... 1949 hurricane... http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52998805 http://bklyn.newspapers.com/image/52998811/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycsnow Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, LibertyBell said: Yep, especially the European has been too far west with this consistently ever since it said it was going to make LF in South Florida. This will probably make landfall near Cape Fear like Bertha 1996 did and track up to western LI at a similar intensity. Western LI isn’t a little East that’s Way East then any model I think maybe nyc or just west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, nycsnow said: Western LI isn’t a little East that’s Way East then any model I think maybe nyc or just west I’d rather take the 2-4” of rain over the maybe 70mph winds so it can keep drifting East, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 quick hitter on the nam-precip is done by 7-8pm tomorrow eve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neblizzard Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: quick hitter on the nam-precip is done by 7-8pm tomorrow eve This was always was a fast mover I don’t think anyone is shocked by that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 It doesn't look like it's moving that far east to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Nam barely has any rain for the city east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, MJO812 said: Nam barely has any rain for the city east classic east of track situation like we saw with Fay 3K NAM is even further west with the 2 inch rain line over the Delaware River and west Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nycwinter Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 watching local tv weather future cast the city gets one good band mid day and that is it the storm is over by 6-700 pm .. lucky to get a inch for the city.. if that future cast is accurate.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, nycwinter said: watching local tv weather future cast the city gets one good band mid day and that is it the storm is over by 6-700 pm .. lucky to get a inch for the city.. if that future cast is accurate.. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, nycwinter said: watching local tv weather future cast the city gets one good band mid day and that is it the storm is over by 6-700 pm .. lucky to get a inch for the city.. if that future cast is accurate.. Fay was like that east of the city-one firehose band and that was it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Is it safe to say the worst of the storm will be from about 11 am tomorrow morning thru about 9 pm tomorrow night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: LOL Agree These storms can bring surprises with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 Worst winds tomorrow between 4pm and 8pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 You guys put way, way too much weight towards the NAM. It's a short term model designed for forecasting convection, not a complex tropical system that's transitioning and interacting with a trough. The rain isn't going to be confined to that one consolidated area. You're going to see multiple bands on the Eastern side. Just look at the current radar situation over the Mid-Atlantic. That MCS pushing into DC is non-existent on the NAM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 1 minute ago, NJwx85 said: You guys put way, way too much weight towards the NAM. It's a short term model designed for forecasting convection, not a complex tropical system that's transitioning and interacting with a trough. The rain isn't going to be confined to that one consolidated area. You're going to see multiple bands on the Eastern side. Just look at the current radar situation over the Mid-Atlantic. That MCS pushing into DC is non-existent on the NAM. I see your point but every model has that same narrow band of heavy rain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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