ORH_wxman Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, Typhoon Tip said: 71 at mi casa up here along rt 2 I'm only mentioning because there contention among Mets and privy users over the veracity of Logan's readings... See my explanation above. When we start tying or wanting records by a narrow margin, then it matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Typhoon Tip said: 71 at mi casa up here along rt 2 I'm only mentioning because there contention among Mets and privy users over the veracity of Logan's readings... When it’s 34 and easily accumulating in moderate snow that’s a flag. We’ve seen that recently at Logan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Ugh. They really gotta fix their siting issue and figure it out. First, it causes the warmest July on record last year when nobody else in SNE was even close...now it ties a monthly high (maybe surpasses it next hour). On any given day, 2-3F doesn't matter that much but today it will...difference between monthly record and not. There are lots of 71 70s though around Boston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, weathafella said: When it’s 34 and easily accumulating in moderate snow that’s a flag. We’ve seen that recently at Logan. yeah..I get it - Tell Don ... I'm okay with it suspicion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Yeah.... I don't choose to take sides/ignite vitriol over Logan's readings, but today may be a bad day to strike up contention when it's the same f'n temperature like everywhere Or close enough that an offshore component out of 70 F should conceptually do a 72 there..? Just wonderin' It may be a situ where the error - if proven to exist beyond the local consensus' suspicion - tends to manifest in certain ranges and settings? I know the FIT used to run suspicious DP numbers ...and I used rail on about it, but then there was a quiet fix installed and they been better since 2010 - not because of me...just saying... Sometimes things there have band widths of physical parametrics where the error occurs, and in other environmental conditions, they don't.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: There are lots of 71 70s though around Boston West side esp. More 69-70 near Logan which supports the 2-3F bias. We've been over this a bunch of times before anyway the empirical data is overwhelming...it's just a question of fixing the siting issue if it's not the ASOS itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Snowing out. Winter’s moving back in. Man am I jealous of 70F right now. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Nice mod snow event up here on Thurs on the 12z Euro before the possible big weekend system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I almost think yesterday was warmer here in terms of sustained warmth. Didn’t really get out of the low 50s here today, what’s up with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, dryslot said: Nice mod snow event up here on Thurs on the 12z Euro before the possible big weekend system. Hopefully wave spacing doesn’t become an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowHole413 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, HIPPYVALLEY said: I almost think yesterday was warmer here in terms of sustained warmth. Didn’t really get out of the low 50s here today, what’s up with that? This morning was definitely warmer at my place. It hit 70 and is now is the 60s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, HIPPYVALLEY said: Hopefully wave spacing doesn’t become an issue. Doesn't appear to be the case for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 24 minutes ago, donsutherland1 said: At 12:54 pm, Boston reported a temperature of 72 degrees. That tied the January record set on January 26, 1950. Make sure you note the temp issues when you see anything from Logan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Euro is much further south with the wekeend storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 110pm looks like Logan shot up briefly to 73.4F. Whether that is accurate I don't know but it will make headlines for the warmest temperature ever recorded over 153 years. What a run. 70F yesterday, 64F for a low last night and 73F today. Probably longest, warmest stretch for Boston? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 It's almost too much to expect the temperature will correct down to normalcy once the departure is this deep and lengthy... This warmth is no spike... It's two days of it... with a blue flame night in between. That's more than southerly gale WCB type of arrangement. Anyway, the system on Thursday is still present on the Euro but it's too warm. This isn't a cool week. We're struggling with a statically locked 42 N, 850 mb 0C isotherm the whole way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 I'm selling the euro for Thursday. It is still an outlier. Admittedly stubborn though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Just now, ORH_wxman said: I'm selling the euro for Thursday. It is still an outlier. Admittedly stubborn though. It just shifted south and colder. Give it time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
512high Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, powderfreak said: Snowing out. Winter’s moving back in. Man am I jealous of 70F right now. I will switch with you....its overrated down here(lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 It's just feeding my hypothesis that we've already crossed(ing) a climate threshold ...just not one very well identified, because climate is still a learning curve everywhere and all dimensions, anyway. But, it seems as years go by, we either have to have a -EPO preceding or in the temporal neighborhood, are we're too warm for Currier&Ives... like, period. Today is obviously a different thing altogether and I've spent time explaining it to a empty room already, so wont' bother. But... it's like it's getting increasingly more suspiciously coherent ( call it ..) that unless we're directly dumping cold into the 40th parallel, we're flopping over too warm for snow more readily/regularly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: I almost think yesterday was warmer here in terms of sustained warmth. Didn’t really get out of the low 50s here today, what’s up with that? You are closer to the SFC cold drain coming down would be my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 16 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I'm selling the euro for Thursday. It is still an outlier. Admittedly stubborn though. Kind of surprising that its that aggressive but 12z Ukie has it, 12z CMC had it but further south too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: I'm selling the euro for Thursday. It is still an outlier. Admittedly stubborn though. I'm interested in how this thing does in that model. There's some growing sort of ...aversion to the Euro call it ( heh ), and this scenario has sort of put it on a stage with lime light - with no peers to support it ( other than the NAVGEM ...uh...), it's making a spectacle out of that test. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 9 minutes ago, Powderboy413 said: This morning was definitely warmer at my place. It hit 70 and is now is the 60s Mid morning we were getting these chinook like gusts of wind that would spike the temperature close to 60 for a few minutes but then go back down. Anyway 52F here atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, powderfreak said: You are closer to the SFC cold drain coming down would be my guess. Right down the valley. Brattleboro also cooler than surrounding areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgeek Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Typhoon Tip said: It's just feeding my hypothesis that we've already crossed(ing) a climate threshold ...just not one very well identified, because climate is still a learning curve everywhere and all dimensions, anyway. But, it seems as years go by, we either have to have a -EPO preceding or in the temporal neighborhood, are we're too warm for Currier&Ives... like, period. Today is obviously a different thing altogether and I've spent time explaining it to a empty room already, so wont' bother. But... it's like it's getting increasingly more suspiciously coherent ( call it ..) that unless we're directly dumping cold into the 40th parallel, we're flopping over too warm for snow more readily/regularly. Tip....thanks for the the excellent explanations about how cc is expanding the Hadley Cells and making it harder to keep it cold enough to snow at our latitude. I completely agree with everything that you have said. It does seem as if people want to just live in the moment and ignore the bigger picture. I guess it's a mental survival instinct lol. Pretty scary big picture if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, HIPPYVALLEY said: Right down the valley. Brattleboro also cooler than surrounding areas. It was crazy watching the temp drop everywhere last night except the summits. Mansfield and Lincoln Peak were still 50F when BTV was 31F and ZR. Would’ve been a cool graphic to show a 3-D advection of the cold while the mountains stuck out like rocks above water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 BTV 45 degrees colder than BOS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 Seems like euro is starting to cave on the weekend event. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 12, 2020 Share Posted January 12, 2020 71/48. Just got back from the park with my kid.. sweated pretty good! Happy Tanuary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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