Toekneeweather Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Next weekend looks good for a big storm. The midweek system disappeared unfortunately. Radar looks good for quick hitting snow showers mixed with sleet and rain for the next 3 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJO812 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Light sleet here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ericjcrash Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Ping ping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Sleet here just east of jfk airport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Sleet rain mix on the Uws Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathermedic Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Plain rain now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 snow/sleet mix here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwx85 Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Snowed heavily for about 5 minutes about an hour ago, now back to a rain/sleet mix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, NJwx85 said: Snowed heavily for about 5 minutes about an hour ago, now back to a rain/sleet mix. Had some heavy rain before mixed in with sleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Started as light sleet here, mixed with rain, then a snow sleet mix. Was mostly light rain with a few ice pellets 15 minutes ago, now snow/sleet rain/mix. Your basic wet cold afternoon that can't make up its mind. Temp is +2C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juliancolton Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 It's been snow showering here all day, also with no accumulation. Just lots of puddles and wet sidewalks to kill enthusiasm for the many Christmas parades tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 NYC closing in on the 1996 record for the most days in a year with measurable precipitation. Today puts NYC in 2nd place. #1...152 days....1996 #2...145 days....2018....1972 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cfa Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 Drove through heavy snow on CT-15 a couple of hours ago, wasn’t expecting to see that. Sides of the road were sparsely coated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 10 hours ago, donsutherland1 said: Yes. At least in the Bronx. Yes even just flakes in the air is a trace of snow. I didn't know why some misunderstood that, it's obviously not rain, whether anything sticks to the ground or not, it's still snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 6 hours ago, Toekneeweather said: Next weekend looks good for a big storm. The midweek system disappeared unfortunately. Radar looks good for quick hitting snow showers mixed with sleet and rain for the next 3 hours. It might be better this way. The midweek system being further offshore may allow the next weekend system to really amplify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toekneeweather Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, LibertyBell said: Yes even just flakes in the air is a trace of snow. I didn't know why some misunderstood that, it's obviously not rain, whether anything sticks to the ground or not, it's still snow. No it isn’t you can’t record a trace of snow if there are twenty flurries that don’t even hit the ground. You actually need more like a snow shower, we already went through this from national weather service Snow often melts as it lands. If snow continually melts as it lands, and the accumulation never reaches 0.1 inches on your measuring surface, snowfall should be recorded as a trace (T) and record in your remarks that the "snow melted as it landed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 The mean temperature for New York City during November was 44.4° (3.3° below normal). November 2018 was the coldest November since 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, Toekneeweather said: No it isn’t you can’t record a trace of snow if there are twenty flurries that don’t even hit the ground. You actually need more like a snow shower, we already went through this from national weather service Snow often melts as it lands. If snow continually melts as it lands, and the accumulation never reaches 0.1 inches on your measuring surface, snowfall should be recorded as a trace (T) and record in your remarks that the "snow melted as it landed But doesn't this contradict your point? If there are flurries flying around and they melt as they hit the ground, a trace should be recorded according to this criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toekneeweather Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 13 minutes ago, JerseyWx said: But doesn't this contradict your point? If there are flurries flying around and they melt as they hit the ground, a trace should be recorded according to this criteria. They have to wet the ground don’t you see it on the text that national weather service states. Today we had a trace of frozen stuff but longbeachsurf was talking about a few snow flurries that is not a trace. Flakes flying around and never really wetting the ground is not a trace. Maybe I’m wrong but I can picture a trace basically some white rain and boom it’s a trace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishRob17 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, JerseyWx said: But doesn't this contradict your point? If there are flurries flying around and they melt as they hit the ground, a trace should be recorded according to this criteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyWx Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, Toekneeweather said: They have to wet the ground don’t you see it on the text that national weather service states. Today we had a trace of frozen stuff but longbeachsurf was talking about a few snow flurries that is not a trace. Flakes flying around and never really wetting the ground is not a trace. Maybe I’m wrong but I can picture a trace basically some white rain and boom it’s a trace Well it says the snow has to melt when it hits the ground, not that it actually has to "wet" the ground. I could be wrong too, just how I'm seeing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toekneeweather Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 3 minutes ago, JerseyWx said: Well it says the snow has to melt when it hits the ground, not that it actually has to "wet" the ground. I could be wrong too, just how I'm seeing it. You’re right I was wrong, it just needs to melt on the ground. So that means even a few flurries are a trace as long as they do reach the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Toekneeweather said: They have to wet the ground don’t you see it on the text that national weather service states. Today we had a trace of frozen stuff but longbeachsurf was talking about a few snow flurries that is not a trace. Flakes flying around and never really wetting the ground is not a trace. Maybe I’m wrong but I can picture a trace basically some white rain and boom it’s a trace Bingo! White rain is a trace of snow. Record a T. Why is this so hard for some people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 4 hours ago, Toekneeweather said: No it isn’t you can’t record a trace of snow if there are twenty flurries that don’t even hit the ground. You actually need more like a snow shower, we already went through this from national weather service Snow often melts as it lands. If snow continually melts as it lands, and the accumulation never reaches 0.1 inches on your measuring surface, snowfall should be recorded as a trace (T) and record in your remarks that the "snow melted as it landed What I said is basically what's stated there lol. Of course the snow flakes hit the ground, they just melt as they hit. What you're talking about is virga and that only happens higher up in the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibertyBell Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Toekneeweather said: They have to wet the ground don’t you see it on the text that national weather service states. Today we had a trace of frozen stuff but longbeachsurf was talking about a few snow flurries that is not a trace. Flakes flying around and never really wetting the ground is not a trace. Maybe I’m wrong but I can picture a trace basically some white rain and boom it’s a trace What exactly do you think happens to those snowflakes? "Wetting" the ground is a very subjective thing, if the snow flakes dont accumulate, they are melting, it has to be one or the other. Either they accumulate when they hit the ground or they melt. I think you're thinking of virga, which happens much higher in the atmosphere. Once you see a snowflake a few feet above the ground (let's say 6 feet- the normal height of a person) it doesn't have any room or time left to become virga, it will either hit the ground and accumulate or melt. If it's only a few snow flakes you may never notice the "wetness" but that doesn't mean that it didn't hit the ground lol. The idea of virga does bring up an interesting point though. Is it possible for someone to witness snowflakes near the top of a skyscraper (like let's say the Empire State Building) that dry up before ever hitting the ground? We know that snow can change to rain from that height, but can we also have virga from that height? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted December 1, 2018 Share Posted December 1, 2018 November ended at -3.3[44.4]. This is likely more than 1.5sd units BN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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