TriPol Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 An interesting observation this Summer: Whatever short term pattern we're in, we stay stuck in it for a while. First it was persistent rain and thunderstorms for weeks on end and now it's persistent humidity and heat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb7916 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Why is an onshore flow giving an issue with cloud cover for tomorrow and Saturday even though the ocean temps are much warmer this time of year than in April and May. Thought during the summer months that the onshore flow doesn't have as strong as an influence in terms of cloud cover and cooler temps like it does in April and May when the ocean temps are significantly colder. Just don't get it? I don't mind the cooler air but not with gray skies and no sun at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRRTA22 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 80/64 Normal circumstances this would be quite warm....not tonight...Feels GOOD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjr Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 3 hours ago, SACRUS said: 8 - 30 ACY: 94 JFK: 92 EWR: 92 New Bnwck: 91 BLM: 91 LGA: 91 TEB: 91 NYC: 90 TTN: 90 PHL: 90 ISP: 89 NYC hit 90 a little after 1pm. Soon after, temperatures fell off a cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormlover74 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Ewr had a morning low of 80 but is now 79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 Current temp 79/ DP 67/RH 62% High for the day yesterday was 92 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CIK62 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Last day of August averaging 74(80/68), or 2degs. AN. Month to date is +3.1[78.3]. Should end at +3.0[78.2]. This is a tie for 8th. place. The full 8 days are averaging 80degs., or about 9degs. AN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Several of our stations will finish August near the warmest on record. There were also a number of local stations with a top 5 and 10 warmest summer(JJA). But the high humidity was even more impressive than the temperatures. JFK is at 34 days of a 75 or higher maximum dew point. This is 10 more days than the previous record. It is also a new extreme for 3 consecutive years with so many days. through 8/30: ............AUG....JJA EWR.....#5 LGA......#2......#3 JFK......#5 HPN.....#2......#8 BDR....#2........#3 ISP.....#4........#5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LurkerBoy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 minute ago, bluewave said: Several of our stations will finish August near the warmest on record. There were also a number of local stations with a top 5 and 10 warmest summer(JJA). But the high humidity was even more impressive than the temperatures. JFK is at 34 days of a 75 or higher maximum dew point. This is 10 more days than the previous record. It is also a new extreme for 3 consecutive years with so many days. through 8/30: ............AUG....JJA EWR.....#5 LGA......#2......#3 JFK......#5 HPN.....#2......#8 BDR....#2........#3 ISP.....#4........#5 Is this correlated to AGW? Seems extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 feels great out there with a NE wind and 68 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 1 minute ago, LurkerBoy said: Is this correlated to AGW? Seems extreme. +AMO has had some role...very warm water just offshore this year too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, LurkerBoy said: Is this correlated to AGW? Seems extreme. Sure. http://www.climatecentral.org/gallery/graphics/summers-getting-muggier-as-dewpoint-temp-rises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
495weatherguy Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, bluewave said: Several of our stations will finish August near the warmest on record. There were also a number of local stations with a top 5 and 10 warmest summer(JJA). But the high humidity was even more impressive than the temperatures. JFK is at 34 days of a 75 or higher maximum dew point. This is 10 more days than the previous record. It is also a new extreme for 3 consecutive years with so many days. through 8/30: ............AUG....JJA EWR.....#5 LGA......#2......#3 JFK......#5 HPN.....#2......#8 BDR....#2........#3 ISP.....#4........#5 Impressive to say the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rtd208 Posted August 31, 2018 Author Share Posted August 31, 2018 Current temp 73/DP 68/RH 84% Much nicer morning temp wise then the last few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Back to cannot buy a drop of rain pattern on the island. While we watch central New Jersey get soaked. Patterns have been incredibly consistent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 16 minutes ago, LongBeachSurfFreak said: Back to cannot buy a drop of rain pattern on the island. While we watch central New Jersey get soaked. Patterns have been incredibly consistent. Backdoors are usually dry for us with the best moisture convergence to our south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb7916 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 This is not a backdoor front though. This is a cold front that approached from the west and decided to stall to our south. Just hoping for those breaks of at least seeing some sun both today and tomorrow before the great lovely summer weather makes that comeback on Sunday. I know many people hate the summer heat and humidity but I love it much better thaan the clouds and chill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluewave Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, sb7916 said: This is not a backdoor front though. This is a cold front that approached from the west and decided to stall to our south. Just hoping for those breaks of at least seeing some sun both today and tomorrow before the great lovely summer weather makes that comeback on Sunday. I know many people hate the summer heat and humidity but I love it much better thaan the clouds and chill You can classify it as a backdoor since the high is to our NE with a predominant easterly flow. Typical continental cold fronts have mostly NW to N flow behind them without the present marine layer across the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb7916 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Another thing that is concerning me is why is an onshore flow giving an issue with cloud cover for today and tomorrow even though the ocean temps are much warmer this time of year than in April and May. Thought during the summer months that the onshore flow doesn't have as strong as an influence in terms of cloud cover and cooler temps like it does in April and May when the ocean temps are significantly colder. Just don't get it? I don't mind the cooler air but not with gray skies and no sun at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Nws isn’t buying the big heat for next week. Thinks we mid-80s and that’s it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, psv88 said: Nws isn’t buying the big heat for next week. Thinks we mid-80s and that’s it They always go conservative and then inch up as we get closer. They had upper 80's for this week too a week out-how did that turn out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, bluewave said: You can classify it as a backdoor since the high is to our NE with a predominant easterly flow. Typical continental cold fronts have mostly NW to N flow behind them without the present marine layer across the region. Agree there. How quick it washes out will determine how much sun vs clouds folks see the next 2 days...here it's actually clearing from the Northeast to southwest.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, sb7916 said: Another thing that is concerning me is why is an onshore flow giving an issue with cloud cover for today and tomorrow even though the ocean temps are much warmer this time of year than in April and May. Thought during the summer months that the onshore flow doesn't have as strong as an influence in terms of cloud cover and cooler temps like it does in April and May when the ocean temps are significantly colder. Just don't get it? I don't mind the cooler air but not with gray skies and no sun at all The clouds from the onshore flow were in a small bank and have already cleared all of SNE and even the far eastern north fork of the island and Connecticut. The remainder of the area may remain socked in til early afternoon because of the mid and high level decks above it advecting NE in the SW flow at higher levels. These clouds are mostly associated with blowoff from the showers to the south and may slow down the burnoff of lower clouds. You can get plenty of low clouds here even in August with onshore flow. It’s just more common if that flow is SE than NE. More often ENE or NE flow brings low clouds to New England and decks more in the 2-3K range near NYC if they make it that far southwest. Time is also a factor. It often takes 2 days or more of established SE flow to get the low clouds entrenched for long periods. Those patterns are more common before the typical SW Atlantic summer high develops Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psv88 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Brian5671 said: They always go conservative and then inch up as we get closer. They had upper 80's for this week too a week out-how did that turn out? They had upper 80s/90 and then backed down, that doesn’t make sense. Nothing shows the heat backing down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb7916 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 The only area I'm concerned about is NYC and the 5 boroughs since that's where I live. Hope the clearing line makes it there today as well and that we continue to have that break in the cloud cover going into tomorrow as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 Ridge keeps cycling in the east. If that's true then September should be record breaking. Another summer to winter transition looks likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustinRP37 Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 46 minutes ago, sb7916 said: The only area I'm concerned about is NYC and the 5 boroughs since that's where I live. Hope the clearing line makes it there today as well and that we continue to have that break in the cloud cover going into tomorrow as well You bring up how depressed clouds makes you a lot. I'm kind of like you in the spring time because I absolutely hate it, but have you considered Phoenix or San Diego? One area I will try to go more and more to in the spring to get away from the constant gloominess, but right now it does not bother me. It is still nice, dry, and warm outside. New York really isn't known as a 'sunny' city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACRUS Posted August 31, 2018 Share Posted August 31, 2018 http://mp1.met.psu.edu/~fxg1/SAT_NE/anim8vis.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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