Cold Miser Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 11 minutes ago, Damage In Tolland said: It’s been tossed all day by mets Even Ryan's latest map keeps you out of the ice zone and into the rain zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 7 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: Sorry, denying the existence of CAD in response to a patently obvious illustration of it is silly. I don't think anyone personally attacked him. No it still isn't a CAD setup in my view. But that's fine. Temps steadily rise throughout the day. I'm not sure how we can point to that as a CAD setup.... Seems to me like modest CAD overnight, with radiational cooling. Then modest WAA all day tomorrow (in SNE and seacost NH), until front swings through... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 27 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said: Pope's map is pretty good but I doubt much if anFearin in the yellow zone. That's re ally the only thing I'd change....it may not rain down into southern ORH county either...but that is still up for debate, could sneak to 33-34 there near the end before the front sinks back SE. Ya thats the glaring issue with his map imo. Its not raining Nw of ORH airport. Frzr I can buy but not rain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 43 minutes ago, jbenedet said: Pink 6-12" all frozen (some sleet). Yellow 4-8" snow/sleet to 3 hr period of moderate rain. Light Blue 3-6" front end thump to a 3-6 hr period of rain. Gray: 1-3" to rain. Green: 1" to rain. The 4-8" gradient goes along Rt 125 in NH. west of there is 6-12", east of there is 4-8" 3 hr period of rain. Don"t you live in NH? Maybe I'll make a VT map j/k I know you can take the needle unlike some others who are obsessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, STILL N OF PIKE said: Ya thats the glaring issue with his map imo. Its not raining Nw of ORH airport. Frzr I can buy but not rain where is your map since you called everyone out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, jbenedet said: No it still isn't a CAD setup in my view. But that's fine. Temps steadily rise throughout the day. I'm not sure how we can point to that as a CAD setup.... What do you think kinks in the isobars over interior NE while a high is positioned to the north of Caribou, ME represents? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 35 minutes ago, HoarfrostHubb said: Probably not, but those warm tongues always seem to reach further than we think so she said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, jbenedet said: No it still isn't a CAD setup in my view. But that's fine. Temps steadily rise throughout the day. I'm not sure how we can point to that as a CAD setup.... Rising temps doesn't refute the existence of CAD. They will naturally rise anyway with diurnal processes and also latent heat release once we flip to IP/ZR. But they rise quite slowly compared to the coastline because of CAD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 3 minutes ago, Cold Miser said: Even Ryan's latest map keeps you out of the ice zone and into the rain zone. This event is warmer than a typical SWFE... he’s definitely going to rain.... for how long is the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: Rising temps doesn't refute the existence of CAD. They will naturally rise anyway with diurnal processes and also latent heat release once we flip to IP/ZR. But they rise quite slowly compared to the coastline because of CAD. I know this of course. But I'm making the point, dews and surface to 850 is rising ALL DAY in SNE...until we are on the backside of the CF. CAD setup? Not in my view... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Cold air damming is just that. Dammed, wedged...however you want to word it. Your winds remained backed despite slowly climbing temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, ORH_wxman said: Rising temps doesn't refute the existence of CAD. They will naturally rise anyway with diurnal processes and also latent heat release once we flip to IP/ZR. But they rise quite slowly compared to the coastline because of CAD. Yes, CAD is supplying resistance to warming processes...doesn't always win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: This event is warmer than a typical SWFE... he’s definitely going to rain.... for how long is the question did you look at the Euros and Swiss temp profile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, jbenedet said: I know this of course. But I'm making the point, dews and surface to 850 is rising ALL DAY in SNE...until we are on the backside of the CF. Yes...of course, but if we didn't have the CAD, the entire area would rise into the 40s..at least. Resistance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 18z NAM gets Hubbdave to 45F. Tossed....chuck it off the cliff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, ORH_wxman said: 18z NAM gets Hubbdave to 45F. Tossed....chuck it off the cliff. Arm getting tired yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, CoastalWx said: Cold air damming is just that. Dammed, wedged...however you want to word it. Your winds remained backed despite slowly climbing temps. i like the Swiss wind direction maps on My models , easy to see CAD and LP path over LI sound over RI over PYM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILL N OF PIKE Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 4 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: where is your map since you called everyone out? IM not capable on mobile But gimme a town or towns and ill spit some numbers at ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, STILL N OF PIKE said: IM not capable on mobile But gimme a town or towns and ill spit some numbers at ya burlington, ma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, jbenedet said: Arm getting tired yet? We'll see what happens tmw. I promise outside of I 495 won't sniff 32. Hell, I probably won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, jbenedet said: Arm getting tired yet? It's a lot of work correcting model biases in these setups...we'll have time to rest after this event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 I'm sure pope is a great met...not trying to be a jerk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 the FRH grid is amazing in Boston ...well, Logan to be precise. Has cold rain/sleet/snow and east winds, then BAM! whips around to 230 deg at 33 kts! 900 mb +8C ...3 hours later, frozen solid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgeek Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 ALB NWS now bringing pingers to the Cap District. Dropped expected snowfall from 9" to 6". Even if you adjust the NAM track to the Canal, it tickles ALB with +2C 850's. It just seems like more often than not, if a warm tongue can penetrate mid levels, it will (yeah, yeah, I know......that's what she said!). I was hoping for all snow with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 1 minute ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: I'm sure pope is a great met...not trying to be a jerk. He may need to talk to a professional to shake the east wind PTSD from Long Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25thamendmentfan Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, Ginx snewx said: Don"t you live in NH? Maybe I'll make a VT map j/k I know you can take the needle unlike some others who are obsessed. Some people can take a needle right smack in the fanny, some people can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbenedet Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 2 minutes ago, 40/70 Benchmark said: We'll see what happens tmw. I promise outside of I 495 won't sniff 32. Hell, I probably won't. That's fine, I respect that. GYX just gave the seacoast an advisory here. Just putting that out there. I'm not all alone anymore... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 9 minutes ago, TauntonBlizzard2013 said: This event is warmer than a typical SWFE... he’s definitely going to rain.... for how long is the question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Just now, STILL N OF PIKE said: IM not capable on mobile But gimme a town or towns and ill spit some numbers at ya Location " Boston, MA Edgartown, MA Greenfield, MA Hartford, CT Hyannis, MA Nantucket, MA Newport, RI Plympton, MA Providence, RI Springfield, MA Taunton, MA Westerly, RI Worcester, MA Andover, CT Bolton, CT Columbia, CT Coventry, CT Ellington, CT Hebron, CT Mansfield, CT Rockville, CT Somers, CT Stafford, CT Stafford Springs, CT Storrs, CT Vernon, CT Willington, CT Arlington, MA Ashby, MA Ashland, MA Ayer, MA Bedford, MA Belmont, MA Billerica, MA Boxborough, MA Burlington, MA Cambridge, MA Carlisle, MA Chelmsford, MA Concord, MA Dracut, MA Dunstable, MA Everett, MA Framingham, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Love the algorithm differences. Same model forecast period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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