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December 29th Storm Obs


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lol Jay.  Sh*t was funny to read.  Dude, you completely weenied out for that storm.  Awesome.

 

I would be interested to read/ hear from beginning to end the duration of the storm for the places that received the biggest totals up in Maine.  Wasn't the lifespan of this storm fairly short...12 hours or so, considering the totals I am reading?  There must have been some serious and quick accumulations happening per hour.

 

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3 minutes ago, White Rain said:

Its possible its real. In the northwest corner of town there are some houses near 900ft and its 5 miles nw of here. There is actually a spot that reaches over 1000ft but its in the woods lol. The lowest part of town is 380ft or so. The gradient in the 2008 ice storm was impressive as well. It was extremely bad at my location in that though due to being further east with some elevation. 

I forgot about the area up 140 where you go through the town line a couple times. Gets pretty high just east of there on justice hill Rd.  That's prob where the report would be most realistic since we already know some of the higher spots in Princeton had double digits...so 8.4 wouldn't be a shock on the northern side of sterling with several hundred feet of extra elevation.

Even in ORH there was some big differences. Close to 6" at the Holden line and prob half that on the east side near lake quinsig. 

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3 minutes ago, dryslot said:

19.0" was the total, Absolute crush for a  hour period Mike.

As I look at the pics and the time of the event, it gives me flashbacks to the Feb. 2001 storm.  I think it was like 20+ inches in about 9 hours.  I hope I can see that again

Snowing pretty good here with nice fluffy lake effect flakes.

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Just now, jbenedet said:

Measured around 7" this am. Probably lost an inch or so to compaction. I'd say storm total around here was probably 8". The Euro nailed it. That's a really impressive number considering we rained for 50% of the storm and the first 1"-1.5" before the change to rain was washed away.

 

Yes, Euro took back its throne, Over a 3 day period it never wavered, And was the first to latch over 5 days ago

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12 minutes ago, ORH_wxman said:

I forgot about the area up 140 where you go through the town line a couple times. Gets pretty high just east of there on justice hill Rd.  That's prob where the report would be most realistic since we already know some of the higher spots in Princeton had double digits...so 8.4 wouldn't be a shock on the northern side of sterling with several hundred feet of extra elevation.

Even in ORH there was some big differences. Close to 6" at the Holden line and prob half that on the east side near lake quinsig. 

Wachusett is claiming a foot...but you know...Wachusett

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8 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

27" in Naples.  LOL, we have a client currently building a house up there on Brandy Pond.  Guess they're shoveling out today instead.

I'm a bit skeptical of that. I got 21" and Sebago (town of) recorded 22". Naples sits somewhat is the middle of both towns. Also, Shawnee Peak just north of Naples on 302 coming in at 20".

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14 minutes ago, Baroclinic Zone said:

Shawnee Peak coming in with 20".

Sunday River reporting 20"

A lot of 20"+ totals around

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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE GRAY ME
827 AM EST FRI DEC 30 2016

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST 7
HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION. APPRECIATION
IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE OBSERVERS...SKYWARN
SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS. THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE
ON OUR HOME PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/GRAY

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION          STORM TOTAL     TIME/DATE   COMMENTS
                     SNOWFALL           OF
                     /INCHES/   MEASUREMENT

MAINE

...ANDROSCOGGIN COUNTY...
   9 W WINTHROP          24.0   750 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   MINOT                 20.0   130 AM 12/30  14 IN 5 HOURS
   2 E LEWISTON          19.0   807 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   TURNER                18.5   602 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   1 NW AUBURN           18.5   320 AM 12/30  STORM TOTAL
   POLAND                18.5   516 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   5 NNW GREENE          17.5   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   1 ENE LISBON FALLS    10.0   759 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER

...CUMBERLAND COUNTY...
   STANDISH              27.0   745 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   NAPLES                27.0   155 AM 12/30  NWS EMPLOYEE
   1 SSE NORTH SEBAGO    24.0   208 AM 12/30  SNOW STARTING TO END.
   1 WSW NORTH WINDHAM   19.7   637 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   RAYMOND               19.0   155 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   CASCO                 19.0   713 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   NEW GLOUCESTER        18.0   617 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   GRAY NWS OFFICE       16.6   303 AM 12/30  NWS OFFICE
   GRAY                  16.5   554 AM 12/30  NWS EMPLOYEE
   2 ENE NORTH WINDHAM   16.4   825 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   3 SE NEW GLOUCESTER   15.5   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   GORHAM                12.6   805 AM 12/30  NWS EMPLOYEE
   1 ENE SOUTH WINDHAM   12.5   726 AM 12/30  1.85 H2O EQUIVALENT
   3 NNW PORTLAND        11.5   146 AM 12/30  3 INCHES IN 1 HOUR
   3 N WESTBROOK         10.5   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   WESTBROOK              9.5   742 AM 12/30  NWS EMPLOYEE
   2 SSW FREEPORT         7.8   610 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   PORTLAND JETPORT       7.7   714 AM 12/30  ASOS
   FREEPORT               7.0   523 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER

...FRANKLIN COUNTY...
   JAY                   21.0   716 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   WILTON                20.0   736 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   NEW SHARON            19.0   634 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   3 W CHESTERVILLE      19.0   753 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER

...KENNEBEC COUNTY...
   FAYETTE               21.0   637 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   2 WSW WINTHROP        16.5   600 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   HALLOWELL             14.0   635 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   WINSLOW               12.0   618 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   WATERVILLE            11.0   543 AM 12/30  PUBLIC
   1 W WINDSOR           10.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

...KNOX COUNTY...
   3 W UNION              5.2   645 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   HOPE                   3.0   558 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   ROCKPORT               1.8   820 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   1 SSW CAMDEN           1.5   742 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER

...LINCOLN COUNTY...
   2 SW NEWCASTLE         3.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   NE TREVETT             2.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

...OXFORD COUNTY...
   2 NW OXFORD           27.0   654 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   RUMFORD               23.0   140 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   PERU                  22.0   138 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   HEBRON                19.5   633 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   WEST PARIS            18.0   128 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA

...SAGADAHOC COUNTY...
   2 SSW PHIPPSBURG       5.2   714 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   5 S PHIPPSBURG         3.0   735 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   4 NE TOPSHAM           2.5   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

...SOMERSET COUNTY...
   NORTH ANSON           24.0   636 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   4 ESE SOLON           20.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   SKOWHEGAN             18.0   657 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   2 ESE NORRIDGEWOCK    16.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   4 NW PALMYRA          13.3   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

...WALDO COUNTY...
   2 NNW BELFAST          3.5   701 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER

...YORK COUNTY...
   PARSONSFIELD          25.0   724 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   LIMINGTON             24.2   555 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   3 NW ACTON            21.4   530 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   1 NE NORTH WATERBORO  21.0   800 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   1 SSW CORNISH         16.2   658 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   3 SW WEST NEWFIELD    16.0   756 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   LYMAN                 14.0   204 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   BARTLETT MILLS         7.5   137 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   5 N YORK               5.8   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

NEW HAMPSHIRE

...BELKNAP COUNTY...
   2 SW BELMONT          10.1   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   3 SSW MEREDITH         9.1   720 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   3 NNE MEREDITH         9.0   715 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   LACONIA                9.0   500 AM 12/30  CO-OP OBSERVER
   3 NE TILTON NORTHFIE   8.8   730 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

...CARROLL COUNTY...
   OSSIPEE               17.0   430 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   1 N MADISON           16.0   652 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 SE MADISON          16.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   1 SE TAMWORTH         15.0   752 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 SE JACKSON          14.0   639 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   UNION                 14.0   130 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA
   1 SSW NORTH CONWAY    13.8   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   5 E CENTER SANDWICH   11.5   630 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   2 ENE LEAVITT PARK    11.5   413 AM 12/30  STORM TOTAL
   WOLFEBORO             10.0   806 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER

...CHESHIRE COUNTY...
   WNW WEST CHESTERFIEL   7.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   3 ESE RINDGE           5.3   545 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

...COOS COUNTY...
   MOUNT WASHINGTON      17.2   800 AM 12/30  COOP
   6 NE PITTSBURG         8.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   1 SE LANCASTER         6.0   752 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 N LANCASTER          4.5   600 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

...GRAFTON COUNTY...
   4 NNE DORCHESTER       6.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   1 NE FRANCONIA         4.5   655 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   3 E ORFORD             4.0   550 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER

...HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY...
   2 SE MILFORD           9.5   730 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   4 SE WEARE             7.5   806 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 SSW MONT VERNON      7.0   630 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   3 ENE HOLLIS           4.2   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

...MERRIMACK COUNTY...
   3 E NORTHFIELD        11.3   540 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   2 ENE EPSOM           10.0   459 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 NW BOW              10.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   3 SSW CHICHESTER       9.0   300 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   CONCORD ASOS           8.3   715 AM 12/30  ASOS
   2 SE BOSCAWEN          7.9   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   2 NW NEWBURY           7.2   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   4 SE DUNBARTON         7.0   600 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   1 SSE HENNIKER         6.5   820 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   3 SSE SOUTH SUTTON     6.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

...ROCKINGHAM COUNTY...
   1 S EAST HAMPSTEAD    13.0   752 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   1 NNE DEERFIELD       10.0   759 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   LONDONDERRY            6.6   718 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   2 ESE STRATHAM         4.1   430 AM 12/30  COCORAHS
   2 WSW NORTH HAMPTON    3.0   553 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER

...STRAFFORD COUNTY...
   2 SSW GONIC           15.3   515 AM 12/30  TRAINED SPOTTER
   MIDDLETON             15.0   745 AM 12/30  SOCIAL MEDIA

...SULLIVAN COUNTY...
   1 WSW WEST UNITY       7.0   700 AM 12/30  COCORAHS

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8 minutes ago, dryslot said:

Yes, Euro took back its throne, Over a 3 day period it never wavered, And was the first to latch over 5 days ago

The GFS also resolved the track and intensity well. With regard to snow totals the GFS performed poorly, but the GFS has difficulty resolving BL temps--most of us know this full well-- and therefore it should NOT be used explicitly to determine snow accums in marginal temperature situations. 

Euro king, and GFS queen with this event. But in all honesty should we have expected anything different? Admittedly, I felt a bit like the world was upside down when people were weighing the NAM more than the EURO/GFS. That was a trap that the northwest crowd never should have fallen into. I spent much of my life in LI NY and have studied marginal snow situations during Nor'easters ad nauseusm as a result--it came with the teritory. A good rule of thumb when it comes to Nor'easters is that if the NAM is on the northwest envelope of guidance it is usually WRONG.

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3 minutes ago, jbenedet said:

The GFS also resolved the track and intensity well. With regard to snow totals the GFS performed poorly, but the GFS has difficulty resolving BL temps--most of us know this full well-- and therefore it should NOT be used explicitly to determine snow accums in marginal temperature situations. 

Euro king, and GFS queen with this event. But in all honesty should we have expected anything different? Admittedly, I felt a bit like the world was upside down when people were weighing the NAM more than the EURO/GFS. That was a trap that the northwest crowd never should have fallen into. I spent much of my life in LI NY and have studied marginal snow situations during Nor'easters ad nauseusm as a result--it came with the teritory. A good rule of thumb when it comes to Nor'easters is that if the NAM is on the northwest envelope of guidance it is usually WRONG.

Point taken.  Conversely, if it's on the SE envelope of guidance in these events are you suggesting it is usually right?

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5 minutes ago, moneypitmike said:

Point taken.  Conversely, if it's on the SE envelope of guidance in these events are you suggesting it is usually right?

No. BUT that can often indicate the globals are too far NW. Basically, in general, one should expect the NAM to be further NW than the globals. If it isn't it can sometimes be used as a red flag that the globals are too far NW.

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Just now, dendrite said:

For days the euro was the only model crushing deep interior NH and then the other models started following suit. The GFS never really did get there. To be honest, if you went with a GFS forecast out here you probably would've fared better.

GFS was terrible here, It had me seeing mostly rain, i did not receive any, The Nam had rain here as well, But it was not far off with the qpf, But that's the GFS its bias with BL temps

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